What does God’s glory look like in your everyday life? 

This week on They That Hope, Father Dave and Deacon Bob reflect on the Gospel account of the Transfiguration, exploring how moments of divine glory give us strength and perspective during life’s hardest trials. They share how Christ reveals his presence both in the extraordinary—like mountaintop encounters—and the ordinary rhythms of daily life. 

As Deacon Bob prepares to lead a mission team to Belize and Father Dave readies for a pilgrimage to Rwanda, they reflect on the beauty, chaos, and spiritual depth of saying "yes" to God’s call.  

Plus: Gene Hackman tributes, sports heartbreak, custom cookies, and the surprisingly tricky technique of applying ashes. 

Highlighted Sections 

(00:00 ) Belize Missions and 2 A.M. Wake-Ups 

Deacon Bob shares the joys and challenges of preparing for a teaching mission in Belize, including an unholy 2 a.m. check-in. Meanwhile, Father Dave offers prayers (and a touch of envy) from Steubenville. 

(08:05 ) Pilgrimage to Rwanda and the Power of Sacred Places 

Father Dave looks ahead to his trip to Kibeho, the site of a Marian apparition that foretold the Rwandan genocide. He reflects on how sacred spaces open hearts to healing and hope. 

(09:20 ) Sports Heartbreak Hall of Fame 

The hosts nominate America’s most painful teams to root for—from the Dallas Cowboys to the Cleveland Browns and beyond. It’s part therapy session, part sports history, and 100% relatable. 

(15:00 ) Lent, Ashes, and Sugar Cookies 

From ash-thumb technique to cookies with their faces on them, Father Dave and Deacon Bob celebrate Lent with reverence and humor. Plus, a shoutout to a generous listener and a forgotten name. 

(19:46 ) Remembering Gene Hackman 

They honor the legendary actor Gene Hackman with a tour of his greatest films, including Hoosiers, Unforgiven, and The Firm. His legacy sparks a fun exchange about favorite actors and movie memories. 

(30:45 ) Gospel Reflection: The Transfiguration 

The hosts reflect on Luke’s account of the Transfiguration and the mystery of seeing God's glory. They share how moments of divine light—like mountaintop encounters—sustain us through darkness and doubt. 

Resources Mentioned 

• FaithAndReason.com – Weekly Lent Scripture Reflections  

• Kibeho, Rwanda – Marian apparition site 

• Divine Mercy Shrine, Kraków, Poland 

• Hoosiers, Unforgiven, The Firm – Films starring Gene Hackman 

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