Welcome back to the second part of Denise Welch's chat with Paul and Mine! If you missed part 1, make sure to go back and listen to it first. In this installment, we hear Paul's side of Chipgate and how Matty Healy, lead singer of The 1975, wrote a song about his mum Denise's battle with depression—plus much more!

TW: This podcast contains discussions about suicide, depression, and substance abuse. Please listen only if you feel safe and comfortable doing so.