Inside your cell phone, your car, even your leaf blower – there’s a collection of small, precious minerals making each one work. 

Ernest Scheyder is a Reuters reporter covering the clean energy transition and author of the new book, “The War Below: Lithium, Copper, and the Global Battle to Power Our Lives.” Deidre Woollard caught up with Scheyder for a conversation about:

• Tradeoffs in mining, and why the U.S. is falling behind in the race for precious minerals.


• Tensions of the clean energy transition.


• The “wacky journey” of a junior mining company. 

Companies mentioned: TSLA, RIO, LAC, LAAC, CVX, F, GM

Host: Deidre Woollard

Guest: Ernest Scheyder

Producer: Ricky Mulvey, Mary Long

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