In this conversation, Kaylee Rose and Carmen Leilani De Jesus explore the complexities of consent, particularly through the lens of the Wheel of Consent framework. Carmen shares her insights on the importance of understanding the dynamics of wanting versus willing, and how this framework can empower individuals to communicate their desires and boundaries effectively. They also discuss the application of these concepts in BDSM and kink, emphasizing the need for nuanced conversations around consent and the importance of negotiation in relational dynamics. In this conversation, Kaylee Rose and Carmen explore the concept of desire smuggling, the barriers individuals face in expressing their desires, and the importance of embodiment in authentic consent. They discuss practical applications of the Wheel of Consent, emphasizing the need for self-trust and vulnerability in intimate relationships. Carmen shares insights on building a consent culture, particularly in the context of current societal challenges, and highlights the significance of reclaiming agency and navigating consent in a world filled with coercion and compliance.