Alain was interviewed by our friend Anthony for a Brazilian urbanism blog called Caos Planejado. They discussed Brazilian cities, municipal financing, what it was like to live in NYC in the time of Jane Jacobs and Robert Moses, how urban planners' thinking has evolved over the course of Alain's long career, and lots more.

Transcript & photos: https://devonzuegel.com/post/owd-5-the-evolution-of-urban-utopias-guest-episode-from-caos-planejado