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When was the last time you allowed yourself to drift gently into a conversation, suspending all assumptions and seeing where it might take you?

 In this episode of the Simple Reflections Podcast, I’m joined by Trevor Timbeck, a leadership coach from London, Ontario, and co-author (with Steve Chandler) of "The Power of Systems" and "The Power of Love."

 Trevor shares the genesis of his collaboration with Steve, the playful back-and-forth “system” that shaped their writing process, and how the act of slowing down and reflecting—rather than defending or rushing—creates space for new possibilities.

 We explore how writing these books has shifted Trevor’s approach to life and coaching, moving from a strict search for “the right answer” to a more relational, present, and love-driven way of being. Inspired by thinkers like David Bohm and Humberto Maturana, Trevor speaks to the impact of dialogue, the creative act of “talking to dead people” via AI, and the audacity to be offbeat or “go off the rails” in creative projects. Whether in military or corporate settings, we reflect on the hidden power of love, legitimacy, and playfulness—even in serious work.

 When have you noticed deeper connection or insight arising from ‘drifting’ in dialogue without a fixed destination? What new systems or creative practices have helped you see things differently?

Website: https://www.trevortimbeck.com/

Books: 

The Power of Systems: https://amzn.eu/d/1yxodNH

The Power of Love: https://amzn.eu/d/f2JHSv7

This Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/woVNnt4ckJc

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The Simple Reflections Podcast is a collection of gentle conversations with people from all walks of life, looking at small, seemingly insignificant ideas that have gone on to have profound impacts on the lives of the guests. The podcast is hosted by Dave Hill, the founder of Simplicity in Mind, a leadership and wellbeing coaching practice based in Scotland.

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