Democrats can use this election loss to win the future. Brian interviews Pod Save America’s Jon Lovett to discuss whether Matt Gaetz withdrawing his Attorney General nomination means that Democrats can still have influence and where the party goes from here. Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries chats about how he’s going to reconcile the need to act as a bulwark against Trump’s worst impulses with the exhaustion felt by so many on the left. And Senator Amy Klobuchar joins to discuss whether there’s still an appetite for Congress to release the ethics report against Gaetz, and the state of judge confirmations in the Senate.

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Written by Brian Tyler Cohen

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