In this episode, we have not one guest but two – Brett King and Robert Tercek, the hosts of the Futurists Podcast.

Brett King is originally from Australia, and is now based in Thailand. He is a renowned author, and the founder of a breakthrough digital bank. He consults extensively with clients in the financial services industry.

Robert Tercek, based in the United States, is an expert in digital media with a successful career in broadcasting and innovation which includes serving as a creative director at MTV and a senior vice president at Sony Pictures. He now consults to CEOs about digital transformation.

David and Calum had the pleasure of joining them on their podcast recently, where the conversation delved into the likely future impacts of artificial intelligence and other technologies, and also included politics.

This return conversation covers a wide range of themes, including the dangers of Q-day, the prospects for technological unemployment, the future of media, different approaches to industrial strategy, a plea to "bring on the machines", and the importance of "thinking more athletically about the future".

Selected follow-ups:

• The Futurists
• Brett King
• Robert Tercek
• Episode of The Futurists featuring David and Calum
• Neptune's Brood - Wikipedia article on the novel by Charles Stross
• Jobs lost, jobs gained: What the future of work will mean for jobs, skills, and wages - McKinsey Global Institute
• Wirecutter - New York Times product review site
• Could AI create a one-person unicorn? Sam Altman thinks so - Fortune
• The book The Rise of Technosocialism
• Professor Richard Petty
• Comparison of economic growth, Europe vs. USA - Centre for European Reform
• LinkedIn founder Reid Hoffman wants Kamala Harris, if elected, to replace Lina Khan as head of the Federal Trade Commission - MSNBC

Music: Spike Protein, by Koi Discovery, available under CC0 1.0 Public Domain Declaration