Hope is not the lonely candle in the dark. Hope is the light of the candle in the dark, and you have to light the candle yourself. Hope needs sustenance, hope needs energy put into it in order for it to survive. We’re talking to Evan Tess Murray and Trace Callahan about hope in This Planet Needs a Name, right here on Radio Drama Revival.

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This episode of Radio Drama Revival was recorded in the unceded territory of the Kalapuya people, the Clatskanie Indian Tribe, the Cowlitz Indian Tribe, and the Atfalati tribe. Colonizers named this place Beaverton, Oregon.