Episode 55. Have you ever thought about the concept of a 4 day work week? Would it work with your job and the way you work? The question might force us to explore the idea of work, what we’re trying to accomplish, productivity and our daily motivation.

In this episode, guest Joe Sanok talks about his book Thursday is the New Friday, which is all about helping you transition to the four-day work week—whether the power to make that transition is in your hands or if you need guidance convincing the powers that be. Joe is also a trained therapist who brings a wealth of knowledge and thorough thinking to our jobs, careers and life around them.

Joe identifies as “95% dad” and doesn’t jive with the hustle culture. There is so much information—science, research, and stories—explaining why working less days of the week is a no-brainer. This book brings all these ideas together in a coherent way to spread the message of the four-day work week.

Key Takeaways and Discussion

• The educational path Joe took and the side hustle that grew into something more.
• How he entered the world of podcasting and the work he does in that area now.
• Why Joe decided to start his podcast and how he used it to his benefit.
• The natural phases of business and why it’s important to move away from the hustle.
• Why Joe was inspired to write Thursday is the New Friday and what it’s about.
• Why you should consider exploring the four-day work week.
• How you can find your productivity sweet spot.
• What neuroscience says about slowing down, and how to best get things done.
• The value we give money and when we tend to hit diminishing returns with it.
• The difference between the book The 4-Hour Workweek and Joe’s book.
• How a four-day work week might look different across industries.
• How a team can approach experimenting with a four-day work week.
• The benefits early adopters of this type of work schedule will reap.
• Why you should question what you really want instead of letting your default take over.