In the trainwreck that is American politics, there are those on the Trump train, those who got off, and those who never got on board. So, how did we end up here? You can point at least one finger towards this week’s guest, Tim Miller, longtime political consultant and writer-at-large for The Bulwark. Tim reveals to Kasich & Klepper his involvement in shaping a Republican party with values often at odds with his own, his shame over it, and how he is moving forward with hopes for the future. He also illuminates the viability (or lack thereof) of a third party and what the GOP might look like without Trump.Tim’s new bestseller, WHY WE DID IT: A Travelogue From the Republican Road to Hell, is available now wherever you get your books.

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