In this episode, Steven, Simon, and Shane discuss the potential for offering trials for their product. Shane also shares his personal experiences leading up to his upcoming talk at PHP Tech, emphasizing the need for excitement and support from the community. The conversation shifts to the challenges and considerations of implementing trial options, including technical aspects and business implications. The hosts explore various models for trials, including money-back guarantees and dedicated trial options, while weighing the pros and cons of each. They conclude with reflections on the future of Native PHP and the importance of community engagement.