Tom Holland, co-host of The Rest Is History, is Gyles's guest this week. And, fittingly, this episode is full of history - Augustus, Napoleon III, Bram Stoker, Byron, Jesus and Cecil Beaton all get a mention. Yes, there's name-dropping of a historical kind. One of the interesting things about Rosebud is the distinctive ways in which our guests' childhoods reflect the adults they become, and Tom was thinking about history as soon as he started to read - and this episode exudes that.

Tom isn't just one of the hosts of the world's biggest history podcast, he's also the writer of multiple best-selling history books, largely about the ancient world, which he's brought to life for a wide audience. His latest book, Pax, is out now.

We hope you enjoy this interview with one of the best, brightest and most brilliant communicators around.

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