Tria Prima Podcast Episode 6: Freemasonry and Qabalah

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Pat Shannahan 0:04
Welcome to the tree of Prema podcast, the podcast about Freemasonry and the esoteric tradition. On I’m Pat, I’m with.

Jake Trayer 0:13
I’m with, I’m Jake, I’m with Jake.

Jaime Paul Lamb 0:16
In addition to being with Jay

Jake Trayer 0:18
I am both with and am Jake.

Jaime Paul Lamb 0:21
I am Jamie Paul lamb. And hey, can I say real quick that we um Well, I I know I speak for all of us when I say that we’re very excited that we have a new book out. So Tria prima when Jake set up DLS the when he when he set up the LLC, I have LSD on the mind, because we’re talking about PD Newman’s new book, which is regarding dimethyltryptamine or DMT, which is the the most powerful hallucinogen known to man. And he traces the lineage or the transmission of dimethyltryptamine. from at least through john D and Edward Kelley, and the Royal Society in England and into early Freemasonry, if you can believe that. So have fascinating story. And, and I was going to say Jake said, set our tree or prima up our LLC as a publisher, so because of that, we felt a it’s a great idea to put out some books preemptively.

Jake Trayer 1:43
Yeah. Yeah. To the analog console.

Jaime Paul Lamb 1:46
He thought ahead. So let’s give it up for Jake.

Jake Trayer 1:50
Everybody give a for me.

Jaime Paul Lamb 1:52
Great job.

Jake Trayer 1:53
Um, the reason for all this? Yeah,

Jaime Paul Lamb 1:54
so Jake, did everything cat and I did nothing. And and Jake, made it so we we were able to put out some books, which is

Jake Trayer 2:06
a really cool book. Where can we get

Pat Shannahan 2:09
it’s on sale right now on Tria prima.co. Or on Amazon. The name of the book is angels in vermillion by PD Newman. And PD is if you’re if you’re a regular reader of the blog, PD as a regular contributor. He’s he’s written a bunch of articles on our site. And we’re just really excited that he’s kind of the first book, the author of the first book that we’re putting out there. Beautiful. So

Jaime Paul Lamb 2:33
what what were you guys thinking? What were we talking about tonight? Again, I

Pat Shannahan 2:38
think we were we were talking about doing Kabbalah in its intersection with Freemasonry.

Jake Trayer 2:46
Yeah. All right, here we go. Yeah, so one take everybody knows rules.

Jaime Paul Lamb 2:50
Exactly. Yeah. And just to reiterate, the rules are that we don’t pre plan this stuff. We literally just have a conversation. And Pat is an entered apprentice still at this point, because of COVID. You know, we had to things got set back a bit. Jake is the secretary of Ascension lodge number 89 here in Phoenix, Arizona. I am currently the senior Ward and moving to the east here and on another month or so, to Ascension lodge number 89. And so, tonight, we’re going to talk about our today or whenever you’re listening to this, we’re going to talk about Freemasonry and Kabbalah Pat, so you being an entered apprentice, maybe not having as much exposure to Kabbalah. What is your kind of understand what does that even mean? What What do we mean when we say, the Kabbalah? What does that mean to you? To me?

Pat Shannahan 3:56
This is something I’ve been kind of reading about on my own. And I guess I, I see it as kind of the the mystical side of Judaism. I guess that’s the way I’m, I’m interpreting it as of now. And then ever changing interpretation of of that.

Jaime Paul Lamb 4:19
So what might that have to do with Freemasonry in your mind? At the moment?

Pat Shannahan 4:28
I’m not I’m really not totally sure.

Jaime Paul Lamb 4:31
You know, I wouldn’t have known how to answer that question either, even right now, but in me asking you, I thought to myself, what does it have to do? And my first thought was, you kno