Tim Goetz

Aplos

Derek Scharton

The Well Community Church

Fund Accounting

Every Neighborhood Partnership

Neighborhood Thrift

Sermon Spice

Know Your Guest

Habitat for Humanity Fresno

Dan Kimball

How to start a nonprofit.?

What’s On Your Mind?

Out of town tree trimmers!

Cow Lasso

13^th (Show on Netflix) 

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TRANSCRIPT (Transcribed by AI, so not 100% accurate:)

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[00:00:00 ] [00:00:00 ] Two Guys Open: [00:00:00 ] this is the two guys talking Fresno podcast, the podcast with two guys talking about Fresno. Your hosts are Craig Chardan, a lifelong Fresno who loves his community, even though it drives him bonkers. And Paul square gin, a transplant for us nun. Who’s lived in Fresno for more years than he has it. And he wouldn’t live anywhere else.

[00:00:24 ] It’s time for two guys to talk. Fresno. Here’s Craig and Paul on the two guys talking Fresno podcast.

[00:00:32 ]Paul Swearengin: [00:00:32 ] All right. And we’re still a social distancing and, and working through zoom here. And hi, Craig, how are you today?

[00:00:40 ] Craig Scharton: [00:00:40 ] Good, Paul, how are you?

[00:00:41 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:00:41 ] Good. Has the governor allowed us to come? I mean, when are we going to be able to see each other face to face and do this?

[00:00:48 ]Craig Scharton: [00:00:48 ] well, I think we probably could. I think we’re essential.

[00:00:56 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:00:56 ] True enough.

[00:00:56 ] Craig Scharton: [00:00:56 ] I am. I am still the, although I’m a little less [00:01:00 ] conservative about it than I was, but I’m still being pretty darn careful. Cause I don’t want to get this thing, but,

[00:01:06 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:01:06 ] it’s a weird, it’s a weird space. I I’ve I’ve had people ask me to meet out and I’ve said no, thus far until Wednesday, I’m going to have my first.

[00:01:16 ] Lunch date in a while, and I’m still a little freaked out by it. I’m not sure exactly what it’s going to look like, but I’m going to venture out and try it. And I think my son’s going to start baseball practice this week. So it just, it feels still a little odd to be thinking about life.

[00:01:34 ] Craig Scharton: [00:01:34 ] Yeah. Well, and I, you know, as we’ve talked about it, I’m a little bit on the, a little bit age sides, definitely asthma and all of that.

[00:01:41 ] So I’m, I’m gonna. I’m going to play it a little more, or probably quite a bit more defensively than, than I would. We were talking about that. If I were 32, I’d probably be first one at the pub or whatever. Nothing can hurt me.

[00:01:59 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:01:59 ] I’m looking [00:02:00 ] forward to face to face meetings. Cause I am kind of tired of zoom meetings, but now I got to start thinking in terms of drive time again, and I’ve totally lost.

[00:02:09 ] All sense of drive time around meetings. So it’s going to, I’m going to have to readjust to that.

[00:02:14 ] Tim Goetz: [00:02:14 ] Well, with

[00:02:15 ] Craig Scharton: [00:02:15 ] my computers I’ve and zoom I’ve realized that I still have to get to my meetings 10 minutes early. It’s just like when I was driving, just to make sure the damn things up and up and zoom lets me end up my own meetings and all of that.

[00:02:30 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:02:30 ] I think one thing that’s going to be interesting as I is, is truly the, the, the protests, have not been socially distanced as we’ve seen. And, and I even heard some. Some leaders in the black community saying over the weekend, like, Hey, don’t forget your masks. Don’t forget to try it as social distance as you can.

[00:02:49 ] So it’s be interesting to see if we have some spikes that come out of, out of protest and we pray not, but it’ll be interesting to see in a couple of weeks, if there are numbers on that.

[00:03:01 ] [00:03:00 ] Craig Scharton: [00:03:01 ] Well, I’m just, when I do meet with people it’s outside, I, I do feel a lot safer.

[00:03:06 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:03:06 ] Yeah, that’s a, that’s a big thing, but yeah, I mean, pro sports are gonna start up again without crowds, I guess.

[00:03:14 ] And so we’re just gonna start feeling our way back into this thing. And as I’ve talked to people in healthcare, you know, they kind of say this yet, some points you gotta be exposed at some point, we have to have that, that herd immunity and find out if we have it or not. And so I guess we’re just leaning into that a little bit.

[00:03:31 ] Craig Scharton: [00:03:31 ] Yeah, well, the Oakland A’s are way ahead of the curve playing without crowds for decades.

[00:03:39 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:03:39 ] Yeah. Well introduce our guests.

[00:03:41 ] Craig Scharton: [00:03:41 ] I love the can. I’ve been to their games when they were in 2000 people in the stands

[00:03:47 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:03:47 ] you can kid because you love.

[00:03:49 ] Craig Scharton: [00:03:49 ] Exactly. Tim gets is our guest booth. That’s a little bit of a tongue

[00:03:54 ] Tim Goetz: [00:03:54 ] twister.

[00:03:55 ] Craig Scharton: [00:03:55 ] It’s the CEO of Apple close, which is a, [00:04:00 ] locally headquartered technology company. And just for disclaimer purposes, my brother, works for and that had absolutely no bearing on us, getting to him or, even thinking about it until I. So I’m yesterday and went, Oh yeah, I should tell you we’re here having them on the show tomorrow.

[00:04:18 ] So, I don’t think he has a razor, a bonus coming because he’s talking to Fresno podcast. That’s

[00:04:28 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:04:28 ] good to see you too.

[00:04:30 ] Craig Scharton: [00:04:30 ] Yeah. Tell us about, we’ll ask you about yourself in a little bit, but, how did you come up with the idea for and tell us what you guys do. All right.

[00:04:39 ] Tim Goetz: [00:04:39 ] Yeah. Thanks. yeah, so, I, I, it starts kind of back in, 2008, 2009.

[00:04:46 ] I was the executive pastor at the well community church. And, we were using QuickBooks for our accounting, and in the church and nonprofit space, you have to do your accounting a specific way. You have to do fund accounting. [00:05:00 ] So you can track that money separately. and, you know, my background isn’t in is accounting.

[00:05:05 ] I’m a CPA. And, we always struggled to get the reports out of QuickBooks that we needed. and, at one point I, I knew it was, we needed to do fund accounting. And so I started searching for fund accounting software. And, the only thing I could find back then does a product by Blackbaud called financial edge.

[00:05:25 ] It was. A desk, it was a down, it was a product where you to host your own servers and put it on your servers. And it was tens of thousands of dollars and it just was not realistic for a church or most nonprofits to it stopped. And, my, my assistant at the time at the church was. A lady named Darlene Hanson.

[00:05:45 ]she was, Eric Hansen’s is Eric. Cancer’s his wife. And she would come in and put up with me at the office for, you know, 20 hours, 30 hours a week. And so I asked her, I said, Hey, can I can’t find anything? Can you help find something? And she [00:06:00 ] says, she comes in to report that weeks later. I, I can’t find anything.

[00:06:04 ] And I said, my reaction was, man. Eventually someone’s going to do something about that. and I’m an entrepreneur. I love starting things. I love blazing new trail. I, I have a CPA license, but I am, I, I enjoy risk. so I, you know, that was my comment. And I guess she went home and told doc, you know, Eric and at a staff retreat at the well, Eric one point corners me at a dinner and says, Hey, that software thing, you should do it.

[00:06:37 ] I’m like what, what software thing? And he says the accounting software thing. The thing that Darlene told me about I’m like, Eric, I just, I don’t want to do anything about it. I was just complaining about it.

[00:06:51 ] Paul Swearengin: [00:06:51 ] Isn’t that the way isn’t that our way, just let me complain.

[00:06:55 ] Tim Goetz: [00:06:55 ] Right? So he goes, no, really you should do it all.

[00:06:59 ] I’ll [00:07:00 ] help fund it and you do it and we’ll figure it out from there. And I’m like, ah, and this is how naive I was on the technology side of things. I have, my response was Eric, it could cost like a hundred thousand dollars. We’re like, yeah. We’re like, yeah, we’re, we’re, we’re a little beyond that at this point of investment, into building a software, you know?

[00:07:20 ] So. anyhow, I, I started thinking, man, well, shoot, I guess I need to look at this maybe through a different lens. Like, are there, is there really nobody out there and how many pages back to that quick on Google. And so I started looking at it and I wanted to build a easy to use fund accounting product for the nonprofit space.

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