Ever feel like your mind is running the show—and not in a good way? We sat down with clinical psychologist and author Ross White to unpack psychological flexibility, a practical skill that helps you have difficult thoughts and feelings while still taking the actions that matter. Instead of fighting your inner weather, Ross shows how to bend like a tree: anchored in the moment, willing to feel, and empowered by values and purpose.

Ross breaks down his AWE framework—Anchored, Willing, Empowered—and connects it to a vivid tree metaphor: roots for presence, a trunk that sways with emotion, and a crown that gathers energy for growth. We explore TEAM WIN (Treat Emotions As Messengers, What’s Important Now) so fear, anger, and sadness become signals rather than stop signs. From elite sport to everyday life, Ross explains how to navigate the three motivational modes—get, threat, and reset—so ambition doesn’t slide into burnout and recovery becomes a strategic advantage.

You’ll learn how wonder, gratitude, and compassion act as reset tools, why journaling and mindfulness build meta‑awareness, and how two simple questions can calibrate your effort: Which mode am I in right now, and which AWE skill helps me stay or switch? Ross also offers a timely reframe on meaning: purpose isn’t found, it’s formed. By experimenting with small, values‑based moves, you avoid the arrival fallacy and let multiple purposes evolve over time. Strong intention, light attachment becomes the mantra for sustainable growth.

If you’re ready to branch toward what matters—without breaking—tune in and take notes. Subscribe, share this episode with a friend who’s in “always on” mode, and leave a quick review to tell us your favorite reset ritual.