Guest: Marguerite Martin, Entrepreneur, Social Influencer, and alumna of the American Leadership Forum Tacoma/Pierce County Senior Fellows Program with Melannie

In this honest and brave conversation, Melannie, Audrey, and Marguerite explore a moment from a leadership workshop where Marguerite unintentionally made racially hurtful comments toward Black men in the group—and Melannie checked her. Together they unpack:

• How the incident unfolded, from multiple perspectives.


• What it reveals about unintentional racism, power, identity, and belonging.


• Why the path to anti-racism is often messy, unpredictable, and requires resilience.


• How relationships, reflection, and accountability create openings for growth, healing, and deeper connection.

This episode is less about blame and more about seeing, learning, and staying the course.

Links

• American Leadership Forum Pierce County


• Intercultural Development Inventory


• Cycle of Socialization


• Channel 253 membership