**CONTENT WARNING** Just a heads up - this episode does feature a little bit of colourful language.

An interview with Kirsten Johnstone and Melody Thomas of PopSock Media. PopSock Media is an award-winning narrative podcasting company that connects and engages audiences through beautiful and impactful storytelling. Their unique approach to true-crime podcasting puts them at the forefront of the genre, and they have some great insights for aspiring podcasters – especially those leaning towards the narrative non-fiction genre. Be sure to check out their multi-award winning podcast series hosted and researched by renowned freelance journalist, Aaron Smale: “The Lake”, which is a deep dive into the abuse endured by children at the Lake Alice Psychiatric Facility; and “True Justice”, a five-part podcast series sharing the stories of those who have been through New Zealand prisons and advocating for a more just justice system in Aotearoa. Also keep an eye out for their new and upcoming projects: “The Good Sex Project”, which is about good sex, good relationships and how to have them, and “Untidy”, a podcast about parenting the parents. “The Good Sex Project” will be available soon through Stuff and Re: News. “Untidy” is currently available through Rova and Apple Podcasts.

Listen to The Lake here, True Justice here, and Untidy here.

Find out more about PopSock Media at popsockmedia.com

Transcripts available at collinbjork.com/poduni.html

Hosted by Collin Bjork, a lecturer at Massey University in Aotearoa New Zealand.

Website: www.collinbjork.com

Email: c.bjork@massey.ac.nz

Twitter: @collin_bjork

Produced by Tama Lennox

Music credit: Tama Lennox