Recorded sometime shortly before 7th December 2020. Mother and son discussing the COVID-19 Vaccine, US election and Dominic Cummings. Piers Corbyn said MPs should get the vaccine first, should they? Is the coronavirus response an overreaction? Pfizer gets the profits. Is a vaccine necessary are other treatments better? Why is Trump such a hate figure? Difference between fascism of the 20th century and present-day America? Dominic Cummings, what’s up with him?