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In this episode Lisa chats with journalist and author, Vanessa McGrady. Vanessa has written for Forbes, the New York Times, the Washington Post, KPCC/LAist and so many more publications. She is also the author of her 2019 memoir Rock Needs River about her journey to adopt her daughter. Lisa and Vanessa chat about how working in the structure of corporate environments can help strengthen the work of the artist and how corporations in turn can benefit from hiring artists. In addition, they talk motherhood and art, how art can benefit society and how to tell your individual and unique stories for the general public.

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Check out Vanessa McGrady on Instagram @vanessamcgrady
Check out Vanessa's website http://vanessamcgrady.com/
Order Rock Needs River Here.

Music by  @jeff.roi

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Show transcript available on the show website.