The film NOMADLAND portrayed Americans turning to vehicle living as a way to survive increasing economic instability. In this episode, my guests Lauren and Noah share their real-life story of transitioning away from traditional housing, converting an old bus into their home, and traveling across an America that's under strain from multiple systemic pressures. They speak candidly about the many challenges, logistical hurdles, and unexpected moments of beauty and joy they've encountered along the way.

We also explore the deeper themes of collapse awareness, community resilience, and how their lived experience overlaps with, or diverges from, what NOMADLAD depicts.



Topics we discuss include:

• The rising unaffordability of housing


• What it means to be "collapse aware"


• Community resilience and lessons from surviving the destruction of Hurricane Helene


• The tensions of ecological values vs. the realities of life on the road


• All the times they considered quitting


• The surprising, unexpected joys of simple living


• How their experiences compare with NOMADLAND


• Helpful stories vs. unhelpful stories amid transformational change


• Signals of hope and building parallel structures


• Plus: a surprise cameo from Indy the cat 😸 

⚠️ Spoilers: Nomadland (only from the 40:45 to 55:15 timemark, no spoilers at any other time even if the movie gets mentioned)

✅ No Spoilers: All other fictional works mentioned (Station Eleven, Dimension 20, Dropout TV, Marvel movies) 

Books mentioned by Lauren or Noah:

• The Limits to Growth by Donella H. Meadows, Dennis L. Meadows, Jorgen Randers, and William W. Behrens III
  
  https://www.clubofrome.org/publication/the-limits-to-growth/
  
  
  
  


• The Art of Frugal Hedonism: A Guide to Spending Less While Enjoying Everything More by Annie Raser-Rowland and Adam Grubb
  
  https://frugalhedonism.com/
  
  
  
  


• Work Won’t Love You Back by Sara Jaffe
  
  https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/work-won-t-love-you-back-how-devotion-to-our-jobs-keeps-us-exploited-exhausted-and-alone-9781568589374/new

• Creating a Life Together: Practical Tools to Grow Ecovillages and Intentional Communities by Diana Leafe Christian
  
  https://www.betterworldbooks.com/product/detail/creating-a-life-together-practical-tools-to-grow-ecovillages-and-intentional-communities-9780865714717/new

Resources mentioned by Lauren:

• otherWise
  
  https://otherwise.one/

Resources mentioned by the Pop Mythologist:

• Institute for the Future
  
  https://www.iftf.org

• Foresight Essentials
  
  https://www.iftf.org/foresightessentials/for-individuals

• Urgent Optimists
  
  https://urgentoptimists.org

Outro music: "It’s the end of the world… shhh don’t tell the kids" by Shy and the Fight  — licensed under CC BY-NC-ND 4.0

https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/