At age 4, following the fall of Saigon, in 1975, Viet Thanh Nguyen and his family fled Vietnam and came to the U.S. as refugees. Throughout the turmoil and its aftermath, neither he nor his family could have imagined that he would go on to not only become an internationally renowned novelist—winning a Pulitzer Prize in 2016 for his debut novel, The Sympathizer (2015)—but also to serve as an executive producer of an HBO miniseries adaptation of the book, and become a widely respected voice on matters including anti-Asian hate, refugees and immigrants, war and genocide, and memory and memorials. In addition to The Sympathizer, Nguyen has written, among other books, the new memoir A Man of Two Faces (2023); The Sympathizer’s sequel, The Committed (2021); and the nonfiction title Nothing Ever Dies: Vietnam and the Memory of War (2016). 

On the episode, Nguyen talks about turning The Sympathizer into an HBO miniseries, the polarities between what he calls “narrative plenitude” and “narrative scarcity,” and jokes as a form of truth-telling.

Special thanks to our Season 9 presenting sponsor, L’École, School of Jewelry Arts.

Show notes:

Viet Thanh Nguyen

[3:43 ] “An Open Letter on the Situation in Palestine”

[3:43 ] Min Jin Lee

[5:48 ] F. Scott Fitzgerald

[7:11 ] The Sympathizer

[7:11 ] The Sympathizer HBO series

[7:11 ] Robert Downey Jr.

[7:11 ] Sandra Oh

[8:41 ] A Man of Two Faces

[8:41 ] Casualties of War

[8:41 ] Apocalypse Now

[8:41 ] Platoon

[8:41 ] The Deer Hunter

[11:48 ] Arundhati Roy

[14:18 ] 2016 Pulitzer Prize for Fiction

[21:33 ] Fall of Saigon

[33:34 ] The Great Gatsby

[37:26 ] Portnoy’s Complaint

[40:28 ] Great America amusement park

[47:24 ] Maxine Hong Kingston

[51:06 ] Chicken of the Sea

[51:06 ] Simone

[56:19 ] Operation Petticoat

[56:19 ] I Was a Male War Bride

[56:19 ] Catch 22

[56:19 ] Richard Pryor