For the ninth episode of Charges, Rex brings Matt Barnes & Stephen Jackson on to the show for Part 1 of 2 to talk about the highs/lows in their careers and post-career media ascension. Rex, Matt & Stephen discuss: Where they were raised & basketball taking them places from a young age, Being NBA Champions & how they got through their lengthy careers (1:45 ), the perception of being tough guys in the league (25:59 ), The Malice at the Palace (32:23 ), Stephen's incident at an Indiana strip club (38:08 ), a responsibility to discuss hard social issues & the loss of Stephen's dear friend George Floyd (43:01 ). This episode is not to be missed!

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Executive Producers: Steve Nash, Brandon Kraines, Ezra Holland, Nate Houghteling, and Todd Barrish.

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