Vol.29 职场劝退系列(2)-【产品经理的退路】
Description
本期参与
【主播】
Billy+ Leon
【本期嘉宾】
愿海:北大才女,16年大厂产品经理;
山竹:心理学专业,跨行业产品经理
作为职业劝退系列的第二期,我们为各位找到两位浸淫产品经理这个行业多年的从业者。在交谈过程中两位才女都谈到初入职场时的踌躇满志和对于产品经理改变世界的相信。随着话题的慢慢展开她们又都不约而同的提到了一个产品经理无法回避的话题,那就是如果一个产品的设计和她们的价值观相背离,尤其当是企业的产品设计意图明显侵犯消费者利益的时候,作为这个产品的负责人又应该采取一个什么姿态呢。最后两位产品经理都表示也许心理学才是产品经理最好的归宿,不知道同为产品经理的人,以及想要投身这个职业的你是怎么看的呢?
关于你别这样
【你别这样】是一档围绕着中国职场人打造的漫谈类的播客,我们没有固定的主题和方向。任何一期的选题都可能来自于主播脑海中的灵光乍现、某位朋友关于一些现象的分享、抑或是被某个观点所击中产生的冲动;
这档播客最大的特色就是对于嘉宾的态度缺乏起码的尊重和敬畏,虽说每一期的嘉宾都是来自于各行各业的资深从业者,但他们也不得不接受在录制过程中被挖苦,讽刺和伤害,所以很多来过一次的嘉宾都明确拒绝了我们的第二次录制邀请,这也导致了我们在嘉宾资源方面的无以为继;
但同时我们对待每一期的主题都是认真而严肃的,一旦选定了主题我们也会尽其所能的精心准备。我们希望听众们了解到我们是漫谈而并非胡诌,我们同时也希望这档播客在你们的职业路径,个人成长以及自我探索中能留下一点点印记。
另外欢迎大家加入我们这个播客的听友群,大家可以加小编微信NBZY_podcast申请入群(就是你别这样的首字母),我们可以在那里继续交流。也欢迎大家在那里给我们提供反馈,让我们有持续的动力和坚定变得更好。小编有本职工作平时佛系回应,如有怠慢纯属必然!
主播介绍
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