This week in The National Calum Baird interviewed one of my political hero’s, Michael Russel. This was part of The National’s virtual summer road show. You can find the link to the interview here. https://youtu.be/iLYJLQleKYM Michale made some incredibly valid points throughout his interview but a particular segment struck home with me greatly. In this pod cast we shall listen to Michael and then discus the important point he was making. Full credit to Calum and the National for the interview and the content from it that I have used here.