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What Do You Gain from Thousands of Hikes If Not Fitness?

What Do You Gain from Thousands of Hikes If Not Fitness?

Update: 2025-10-03
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Restaurateur Craig DeMarco (Postino, Le Grande Orange) has logged 4,600+ hikes up Camelback Mountain, not for fitness, but as a daily meditation that shaped his approach to parenting, partnership, and community.

In this episode, Craig shares the rituals that endure slow hikes, mindful practices, optimized sleep, and prevention-focused health, along with insights on marriage, parenting, and creating neighborhood hubs like Air Guitar. 

From meditation to music memories, it’s a conversation about living with purpose and building spaces where people truly connect.

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What Do You Gain from Thousands of Hikes If Not Fitness?

What Do You Gain from Thousands of Hikes If Not Fitness?

JohnJay Van Es