In this episode of Sacred Conversations, Suze and Jakko open up a question that has followed humanity across centuries: What does it really mean to be human? From the survival threads that shape our nervous system to the divine thread that pulls us into creativity, connection, and God’s movement through our lives — this conversation explores the beauty, paradox, and depth of our existence.

We reflect on childhood memories, the contrast that reveals life force, the dance between survival and divine creativity, and the courage it takes to stop numbing ourselves with information overload and instead live fully, here and now.

If you’ve ever wondered why we’re here, or how to reconnect to the sacred thread beneath your daily survival, this episode offers an embodied and spiritual entry point.

In this episode, you’ll hear about:

• Why contrast is essential for awareness of life itself





• How our brain builds survival patterns — and how to step beyond them





• The divine thread that moves us from day one, and how to recognize it





• Why hardship and restriction are part of birthing our true potential





• The role of awe, curiosity, and creativity in living fully human





• How small, ordinary choices — like dancing, texting a friend, or eating a croissant in the sun — reveal the sacred

✨ This conversation is also a doorway into The Sacred Pause Retreat (Nov 5–9, 2025), where we step away from noise, reset the nervous system, and rediscover what it means to be human in God’s presence.

Learn more at Sacred Pause