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What Does It Take to Stay Kind in a Brutal Industry? with Josh Gondelman and Maris Kreizman

What Does It Take to Stay Kind in a Brutal Industry? with Josh Gondelman and Maris Kreizman

Update: 2025-07-09
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Comedian Josh Gondelman and writer Maris Kreizman join us to talk about surviving the creative economy as individuals and as a couple. We dig into the emotional labor of staying hopeful, the financial logistics of making art with no guarantees, and what happens when even the “success stories” feel precarious.




If you want more from Josh and Maris, there’s bonus conversations waiting for you at patreon.com/pastdue.

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What Does It Take to Stay Kind in a Brutal Industry? with Josh Gondelman and Maris Kreizman

What Does It Take to Stay Kind in a Brutal Industry? with Josh Gondelman and Maris Kreizman

Ana Marie Cox and Open Mike Eagle