How do you keep your eyes on the real prize—at home, at work, and on the battlefield? In this episode, Leif Babin and Jamie Cochran unpack the question “What does winning look like?” They show how a clear vision—backed by humility, decentralized command, and long-term thinking—guides every decision from tying your kid’s shoes to leading a company. You’ll hear stories from Gettysburg, airport counters, Iraq patrols, and board-room meetings that reveal why the best leaders teach others to solve problems instead of hoarding the spotlight. Listen through to the “Immediate Action Drill” and start defining victory for yourself and your team today.

Key Moments:

• 00:00 Why “What does winning look like?” matters
• 01:22 Gettysburg case study—strategic vision over tactics
• 02:53 Win the relationship, not just the argument
• 03:54 Flight-delay example—detach and build rapport
• 05:49 Applying the question to tough conversations at work
• 08:16 Echelon Front’s mission: drive impact, not ego
• 10:38 SEAL aircraft story—why hoarding resources hurts the team
• 12:17 Kids’ shoes lesson—empower others to act
• 18:38 The silent leader: train, empower, then step back
• 23:49 “Hit the timer” tactic—talk less, listen more
• 24:34 Detach to see long-term victory in life and work
• 27:39 Immediate Action Drill—define winning at home & on the job

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