What Should Healthcare Look Like?
Update: 2024-11-18
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What is health, what is it for, who do you trust with it?
Jase Case
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https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/news/newsroom/news-releases/2023/07/report-highlights-public-health-impact-of-serious-harms-from-diagnostic-error-in-us
https://www.hhs.gov/about/leadership/rachel-levine.html ––NOT the leader of HHS (Sorry!), but still high up in the department's leadership e.g. Head of the United States Public Health Service Commissioned Corps. Department of Health and Human Services
https://www.thefoodhistorian.com/blog/world-war-wednesdays-the-basic-seven
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00:43:00
I mean, progress came to that point where for some reason, societally, we chose to, at least in the cities, to swaddle our babies and have wet nurses instead of breastfeeding our children.
00:43:12
There was progress that led to that, but there's progress in a different way where we're like, okay, scientifically, we're looking all of this data.
00:43:19
Why in the world are we having these deformed children and these missing emotional gaps with our family numbers?
00:43:27
Oh, skin-to-skin contact is important, having breast milk from your mom's important.
00:43:31
Not being tied to a board swallowed up like a mummy, that might psychologically damage you.
00:43:37
I feel better about some of my parents' choices.
00:43:41
Yeah, so in progress in that way, societally, let's look at our past, let's see where we've gone wrong.
00:43:47
But again, to get to the point of swaddling your kids, that was progress at some point.
00:43:53
So the key is progress reflection.
00:43:56
Yeah, right.
00:43:57
Progress reflection.
00:43:58
But maybe also thinking before the progress, there needs to be a little, a one step before the progress part.
00:44:06
Yeah, I don't know.
00:44:15
It was super common practice.
00:44:20
I looked this up.
00:44:20
I didn't just take muscles word for it, but even in ancient Greeks and ancient Egypt, ancient Rome, this swaddling was just like a common practice.
00:44:22
And I understand from the diaper perspective, but it was just seen as dangerous to let your kids just wander around fair enough.
00:44:32
And then the diaper problem, they've got to have had a cloth diaper solution for that.
00:44:39
I don't understand the immobilization part, except for it's more convenient for the parent, and they could just go about their business, and like they were before their parent.
00:44:49
Instead of it just being like, oh, you hippie, Russo, why in the world wouldn't a child just grow up and doesn't matter if they have a wet nurse or not,
00:45:00
doesn't matter if they were swaddled or not.
00:45:02
Once they get attained the age of reason, they'll understand, and then they'll do the exact same thing to their kids, and it'll all be fine.
00:45:09
But once you have scientific evidence, you have data points, you show correlation and causation, you try to track these down to, try to track it down to knowledge.
00:45:20
In that sense of the word of progress, you're like, oh, okay, so healthcare has kind of gotten better in that kind of way.
00:45:26
But we keep rolling into these problems if we don't attend to the city of necessity, and we're just focused on the city of luxury, as in like your mom,
00:45:39
you're trying to take part in social life in 1700s Paris, and you're like, well, I have a kid now, but I'm just going to send them off to the wet nurse.
00:45:48
And then the wet nurse has no emotional connection to this child.
00:45:51
They just feed them, and then they strap into a board and let them cry while they're tied up like a mummy.
00:45:57
I mean, there's parallels here to just modern daycares.
00:45:59
They're not tying them to board.
00:46:01
Most of them.
00:46:02
But it's just this idea of have a kid send them off.
00:46:05
I don't know, and you know how we feel about schools.
00:46:08
Yeah, obviously we've chosen a different route.
00:46:11
There seems to be, so do you remember talking about government, what is government for?
00:46:23
And we kind of landed that like to have a good government that's actually working for its people, the people kind of have to all agree on like the identity.
00:46:26
Like what is this?
00:46:27
What who are we, right?
00:46:28
There needs to be a we in order for there to be the we the people to design this government that has to be kind of a defined we and then like the.
00:46:36
You know, bringing in too much diversity is actually like, you know, the opposite of what you need for civilized, you know cohesive society.
00:46:43
But I think that with health, we have to also have this commonality of what is health.
00:46:49
We also have to agree on what is health in order for our health care system to be serving us.
00:46:54
What is health?
00:46:54
What is the outcome?
00:46:55
So you're talking about like the.
00:46:58
You know, we're so and okay, so like you know, it's easy.
00:47:00
What's the big difference?
00:47:02
Like the kids will all grow up and they'll be able to reason and they'll do the same things it's like what's what's the goal is it for them to all grow up and do the same things.
00:47:10
As their parents did it like what is the goal of a healthy adult and like how do we how do we set that up for our children like what choices do we need to make for this end goal we all need to have that I guess in mind as parents.
00:47:24
Like what is health and then okay, then we can decide how do we get there but a lot of people and I feel like this isn't an aspect missing with so many people.
00:47:34
Oh my gosh, the people that have come out of the woodwork that are against the new like RFK health and it's like what like how are you against taking out seed oils make people like all the seed oil things nonsense like who's defending this I don't understand is it like a fake bought person is just like.
00:47:52
Why do people want highly processed foods why do people still want you know these additives and stuff and kids cereals kids foods and candy and sodas and just like people are defending this people don't want it to change and I don't get it but it's because people I think don't have the same idea of what health is or they just don't care which is sad but I think it comes down to a spiritual thing and so like I think we've talked about this how it's like all connected I don't know people some people don't.
00:48:20
People don't want to reach their potential and they don't they're not looking upward you know they're not looking upward at all towards a god towards a truth towards.
00:48:32
Why be healthy okay so that we can reach a higher purpose so that we can be our best self because there is something that we are all grasping towards or grasping for something we're all like reaching for which is like.
00:48:47
God gave us an individual purpose a talent something that we're supposed to do to really impact people around us the world in a small way which is there's no small way right it's all big ways like we're all supposed to do something amazing with our lives we're not accidents.
00:49:04
And in order to do that we have to be our best selves we have to be healthy we can't be fighting this constant blood sugar squirrel we can't be hungover we can't be obese and all I can't even move I just like we can't be feeding ourselves things that we can't even live fully like what's the point of your life if you're not living fully and people who don't have a god who don't have this higher power this higher meaning they don't see they don't care about these other steps.
00:49:33
I don't think government should tell you what to eat or what to do with your body or healthcare any of the stuff however if you have a population who is you know our cases three quarters of Americans are obese but you know if you Google it's just it's half and then kids are a quarter he says a half.
00:49:51
If you have that many people who can't serve in the military who can't do like basic activity stuff like you know just like can you walk a mile without dying like is that a thing like it's like at some point it's like you got to save your country I do not agree with telling people what to do but I think which is music culture change I think.
00:50:16
And that's why it's like so many people were so mad at like the food pyramid you know it's like that was not science you know it's like why are you trying to change the conversation change the mood change like when you're the government and you put out something that's you know official and looks like scientific knowledge and it's so wrong it's that was that was someone that was the department of agriculture that wasn't even scientists.
00:50:45
They did they consulted some medical professionals and they all told them exactly what happened that it was going to lead to obesity and you know diabetes and epidemic and heart problems they predicted exactly what's going to happen they just they did it as like a marketing thing for the corporate interest groups that were paying for you know this stuff.
00:51:06
They needed to sell corn soy and wheat.
00:51:16
Yeah I mean it was majorly just that that I think was like 11 to 13 servings of you know bread products you know yeah.
00:51:18
And the crazy thing is like prior to that like during World War II they had the government was putting out dietary stuff and it like actually made sense you know like it was called the big seven I think I don't remember exactly but I was I'll just try to read that because it was like it was totally just like.
00:51:35
It just made sense it was like real food let me see this all right no it wasn't the big seven was the basic seven and it wasn't like a pyramid it was a circle and it said eat some of these foods and it's it's you know fruits and veggies and dairy products and meat and you know bread flour and cereals but they're all kind of even it's not like stacking you know like way mega dosing on bread products like that never made any sense.
00:52:04
Why do we need a manual to begin with like I mean that goes that goes back so far away from our food sources and like what life even is that just like we have to put out this information and I and yeah I'm just like picturing people that live in a big city and they're you know that I'm looking at this forest and I don't know we can just figure it out what's food and what's not food but just like.
00:52:24
Yeah I just that that goes back to like if you live in a city you're more likely to be of the temperament maybe you could call it of like wanting to be told what to do feeling more safe that way like and like wanting wanting experts to help you I feel like that's you know like that kind of that makes a lot of sense but like when when that privilege is abused that's what leads to this widespread criticism of health care distrust in our institutions is I mean like we have major problems where we don't trust these so called experts and especially when you put some idiot who's fat in charge of health like it does it that does not make sense and like it I keep hammering on it but it's that that's why memes are so shareable and spreadable like these are contradictory things that you're showing us like the the experts label of this.
00:53:22
Person who's a you know I'm sure he has all these credentials and and but like who are you especially when you're in a leader leadership position but what you do in your normal life like you are the product of the things that you do of your experiences the habits like how you look and how you present yourself and how you communicate and how you treat your family how you treat yourself like all of that is important and you can't neglect that stuff and people pick up on it if you do neglect that stuff and you you just can't put someone like that in a power a position of power and then expect people to to act like that's normal and that's okay.
00:54:08
I mean I think people have already said this they're just laughing us you know there's just like they they want to push to see maybe it's just like kind of like all the ridiculous COVID things where they put the the stickers on the floor like six feet apart six feet apart six feet apart and then like you be checking out the grocery store and there's this big plastic thing but then like once you're still interacting with them when you have to pay like you go right past it and it's just like okay so I can't talk to you here but I can talk to you over here.
00:54:37
It's just like this the ridiculous stuff that they did just to see if we would follow it and just like the same thing just like putting someone who's they didn't I mean they didn't do that on accident.
00:54:49
You know what I mean I just I don't know what for and what what I'd like other positions like they it's the DEI thing is not an accident it's on purpose like they purposely picked someone that shouldn't be there because DEI.
00:55:03
Like the the woman in charge of a FEMA saying don't go to don't go help the people who have the signs of the yard that says trump ants ignore those people and we're paying for that as taxpayers like what in the world.
00:55:18
You know that's like a DEI person like that if you look at their guidelines like like it wasn't even like helping people was like making sure we had safe spaces to make sure everyone is heard and our ones feelings are addressed like but with a specifically weirdly DEI focus that didn't make any sense that wasn't helpful at all after.
00:55:36
No I think you made a point a few minutes ago that just like we don't want government telling us what to do and I think that's like a usually that makes sense and I think that's a big conversation now about you know people trying to stand up for healthier food now and then all of a sudden the other side is saying what I thought you didn't want you know regulation blah blah blah like why are you asking for all these regulations when it comes to food it's like okay guess what if you kill someone you go to jail.
00:56:04
Our food is killing people they should be in jail our medical system is killing people they should be in jail like if you're doing something that hurts people.
00:56:13
Government steps in no one is disagreed on that from I guess the beginning of our country it's just how it goes if you hurt people there are consequences and that's what's going on and that's why we need these regulations because it's harm it's not just a choice.
00:56:27
It's not a business doing just just honest innocent business practice over here and the government's going to interfere it's not someone that has a score pet squirrel in their house you know it's just like we're trying to operate a business during COVID.
00:56:40
Yeah I like the hairdresser it's just no it's like people actually hurting people so yeah someone needs to step in and it should have happened a long long time ago.
00:56:47
I mean like vaccine manufacturers not being liable to being sued like that's just ridiculous they can do whatever they want the pharmaceutical companies they just they run the numbers and they're like oh yeah well if we get sued it you know well if the government finds us we'll make more of a profit if we just go with it anyway it doesn't matter how many people we kill it really doesn't matter if you just look at the numbers like we'll pay for it later it'll be fine.
00:57:13
And then like I don't want I don't want the government in charge of health care because then you end up like Canada and Canada's health care is terrible but also there's got to be a middle ground because the business or our private interest or corporations are totally failing us.
00:57:31
I talked to someone the other day who accompany that is like starting food forests all over the world all over the country and that's like their vision is like eliminate the grocery store there's going to be a food forest.
00:57:42
There's going to be a food forest near you where you can go and learn how to grow food and you can also just you know if you don't have land that's what you can go buy food from there.
00:57:50
But if you want to grow food these places will also become nurseries because you can get.
00:57:54
Propagations are off shoots from these plants bring them home like plant them like teach everyone how to garden but like actually eat you know to people how to make food on their own.
00:58:04
I think that's like awesome and I think that functional medicine private medicine is probably the future and I hope more people do that like if we were to need health care.
00:58:16
And we have so like recently Nick you went to you did function health like you just did the lab testing so like if we're just want and that's something that I plan on doing to you know figure out what's going on with my gut and learn more about my body and try to get as healthy as I can before I get pregnant again is lab testing.
00:58:33
And that should along with you know nutrition and diet like doing labs to just like look at your body as a whole and try to like figure things out that's a doctor should be doing you know you're an individual like doctors look at you like you're you know a generic.
00:58:49
Like it's like they look at it with a scientific view in mind of like the laws of nature and like all the nature is not like particular rises and you know I was just like there are these laws that are generally applicable and that's what we need to find and then we need to apply that to everything.
00:59:05
There's doing what they learned to do in school.
00:59:07
Yeah but I mean like what they learned in school is influenced by the attitude with which you look at that branch of knowledge and they try to put a they try to transpose a scientific mindset on to medicine and it doesn't work because we're all particular for all individuals.
00:59:25
But I don't think it's science-based at all I think it's business-based they need to see as many customers as they can the best way is everyone's probably the same just keep just and we would this is the medicine that we have.
00:59:35
We want to sell this one so if anyone has any of these symptoms send them to this medicine like it's just all towards medicines in these different umbrellas of what can you sell what can you prescribe it's definitely business-based not science-based because if it was really science-based then it would be everyone's different and you know there's.
00:59:53
Same thing with seed oil this like after World War 2 they were like well we were using this to decrease up our you know tanks and stuff like that what are we going to do with it now let's feed it to the masses you know like everyone.
01:00:05
I was like wow and then like if that's your mindset like like in like a let's reduce waste kind of way like oh that's that's a good thing but like that's not food.
01:00:15
It's waste that was that was that was a heavy machinery lubricant that was not that was not meant to be food.
01:00:23
Yeah so like liberals are often criticized for looking at looking at looking at the world an idealist way like searching for utopia that will never exist and conservatives are often criticized for looking at a golden age that never existed.
01:00:39
And I think there's like a middle ground in between where we can like okay true science real science is a valuable thing but you can't have agendas going into it.
01:00:49
I don't think conservatives are looking at a golden age that didn't exist and I think we're looking at a golden age that did exist and it was the garden.
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This is what I'm going to tell you.
01:00:57
Well yeah there's a religious fundamentalist kind of vein to it.
01:01:01
There was an original garden that God made and he walked with people and there was good food and there was no ill health and people make good decisions.
01:01:11
And when I see that that flag don't tread on me.
01:01:15
I know it's about guns but I think of the snake in the Garden of Eden and just like don't don't mess with the snake don't mess with sin don't mess with evil.
01:01:22
Like don't even I mean there's just too too many things to it I think I think conservatism is taking a more more spiritual stance than ever.
01:01:32
Maybe that just because that I've joined did on it and I see maybe it's something I just didn't see when I wasn't conservative but I think it's a beautiful way to look at life that there is a golden ideal there is a natural.
01:01:47
How are supposed to be there is there is an ideal that we can.
01:01:52
Yeah I don't think we're a science experiment you know like I don't think progress essentially is it's a science experiment.
01:01:59
Tinkering something that doesn't need me to do this yeah and then like you know so like.
01:02:03
I'm thankful for progress in the sanitation department and this is a nice mic this is an idea your hair looks beautiful I'm sure that was you know not just naturally you know you woke up and was like suddenly like that.
01:02:16
It was beautiful for too Nick.
01:02:19
So like your your relationship with someone can be beautiful like the person can be beautiful but like I presented like I there's got to be a middle ground with this stuff yeah but you need to be very careful with what you adopt.
01:02:34
And like I the weird social pressures with with things like you know like being a mom is hard like I look over your shoulder and like I remember like when we had Hudson you know like that was completely different world now.
01:02:45
It was just leave us alone go away but we're like how how do we live how do we but how do we parent like what is this thing like we were so worried about like is it going to break you know like.
01:02:58
The scariest time of my life I've never been so anxious or so afraid it was it was it was such a weird experience and this is very common but it shouldn't be common you know because like we should have been exposed to.
01:03:13
Other kids like we.
01:03:18
I don't like I think I held a baby before that but maybe just one like I just like if if everyone siloed off and and maybe this goes against like.
01:03:30
If everyone siloed off and they're not interacting with each other like how do we know is normal and then like we have this weird like social pressure thing we're like oh well these experts are saying or like oh well.
01:03:42
You know my mom saying this or my my cousins friend is saying this and like what is true what is not like that's what a Facebook mom group looks like it's kind of wild.
01:03:54
Yeah I just like why is it if we have so much progress like why is it such a wild west like.
01:04:00
Adamization there is individualization with certain things but like why don't we kind of just know how to raise kids like why aren't we like more comfortable with that like why don't we have some of that pin down like I.
01:04:16
Let's let's not tell each other like what to think but.
01:04:21
Swaddling was a bad idea but like it's like breast milk good idea formula bad idea like obviously that's great if for some reason you can't breastfeed but like you should be shooting for what's healthiest long term like.
01:04:38
I don't understand why there are things up for debate well it goes back to that it goes back to what is healthy and people not having the same ideas in mind.
01:04:47
There's like health care goes like we like if we are like that powerful of a human species like why don't we have this stuff figured out.
01:04:56
Because there are people that need or just want lots of money and greed has turned us away from truth greed it's evil it is it's just evil.
01:05:05
And we've been warned of it it just turns us away from truth it turns us away from what is good for greed and profit and they want us confused on purpose.
01:05:14
And I think that's reason why crunchy moms or maha moms are like so excited right now and we feel like really bonded when we meet another maha mom or just like talk to another one because it's like wow someone gets it someone is raising their kids similarly I'm not alone.
01:05:29
We feel hope for the future we hope they'll hope for our children that they'll meet spouses and friends who are raised similarly I'm going to cry.
01:05:39
I think that future looks good and we're fighting against this because we see we've seen through it and 2020 just shown a light on on lies and on greed and and pointed us towards health and so many are choosing that choosing truth choosing health choosing what's natural and figuring out what that means you know for their family and I don't know step by step but it's looking good.
01:06:06
Yeah I'm hopeful let's let's see if you know all these people actually get confirmed yeah I just if we can like shift the social discourse shift the attitude of the country like I don't know why you wouldn't want to be a healthy country I mean you can choose to like not be an athlete but like why wouldn't you want just like a normal baseline health I don't I don't I don't understand why you'd be against that.
01:06:35
Um let's raise our boys to to care about that stuff I agree love you I love you.
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