Well well well…here we are. Welcome!!! We are thrilled you’re joining us here on “so there’s this…”, a show in which we share our thoughts and opinions on everyday design that disappoints.

So…what does it even mean for something to be “design-related”? Why does that matter? Who are we to talk about design? For Episode Zero, we talk through these questions and valiantly attempt to define design–in our own words. Come explore the origins of STT, who we are, and why you should like/rate/subscribe to continue listening to our hot takes. Let’s roll!

so there's this... is produced, edited, hosted, and researched by Brooke Viegut & Cornelia Smith. Special thanks to the MA Design Research, Writing & Criticism program at the School of Visual Arts.

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