Enlivening the pod stu today is Recess Therapy and Celebrity Substitute creator, writer, comedian, actor and podcaster Julian Shapiro-Barnum, who takes Kyle on his creative journey from theater student to viral sensation for his playground interviews with kids during the pandemic and a hit second show plus podcast. The guys discuss why children are such refreshing interview subjects, what Julian has learned so far from his award-winning career, Kyle’s sage parenting advice, Julian’s comedy improv troupe, playground slang, Pokémon and wallets, before channeling their inner Jim Henson for Finger Puppet Friend Time.

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Executive Producers: iHeart Media, Elvis Duran Podcast Network, and Full Picture Productions Executive Produced for Full Picture Productions by Desiree Gruber + Anne Walls Gordon

Produced by Ben Fingeret, Nora Faber, and Maia Mizrahi
Editing by Mikey Harmon and Nicholas Giuricich 
Research by Kimberly Walls 
Music by Yatta

Art by Danica Robinson

Additional GFX by Chris Olfers/The Southern Influence
Styling by Dot Bass

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