Today we have a special episode, FAIR is releasing a short film from filmmaker Daisy Wu, starring friend of FAIR Ye Pogue. Our conversation today is with Ye and Daisy but first, we are proud to present their film "The Chinese box" which touches on how the government reinforces racial categories, often against the will of people who feel flattened by those categories.

Xiaowen “Daisy” Wu is currently an international student studying film and television production at the University of Southern California. She previously finished her undergrad degree at Boston University. Her work explores identity, feminism and social issues. Dr. Ye Zhang Pogue is a health policy researcher and behavioral scientist. She explores The concept of identity in American culture through writing. Because of her experience of living and coping with bipolar disorder and its stigma, she has developed a unique way of seeing the world through common humanity. She writes for Psychology Today's blog, the human identity, and her work has been published in Newsweek and on FAIR's substack. She is also the Vice President of the nonprofit organization, Asian Americans for equal rights. And now, I bring you The Chinese box.