A Texas pastor has a divine recruitment strategy—he's telling Christians to "Join ICE for Jesus." We unpack his unholy mix of nationalism, cruelty, and theology while trying to keep their blood pressure in check.

Also in this episode:
• A preacher blames the wrong calendar for the rapture's no-show
• Mormons raise nearly $400K for a shooter's family
• Catholic preschools lose their anti-LGBTQ discrimination case
• Florida high school gets "Witchy Wednesday" backlash
• The ELCA names its first Black presiding bishop

Then, we face off over a big question: Should atheists be anti-theists—or can religion still have a place in a secular world?

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