What if sales could feel as natural as helping a friend—and actually fun?

In this episode, Hailey sits down with business growth strategist Midori Verity to talk about why so many brilliant, hardworking women hit a wall when it comes to selling their offers… and how to break through it without the burnout.

Midori shares her 25+ years of entrepreneurial experience, from building multiple businesses (and surviving the painful lessons that came with them) to creating Fuel to Fire, a high-level community where women founders grow together. You’ll hear how her personal sales struggles inspired her to bring in an unexpected ally: AI-powered roleplay bots that help entrepreneurs practice real sales conversations—complete with feedback—before ever talking to a potential client.

Together, Hailey and Midori dig into:

• The mindset traps that keep women from closing sales (even with warm leads)


• Why “being nice” can quietly sabotage your revenue—and how to reframe selling as service


• The tools and systems Midori uses to find high-quality leads without burning hours on social media


• The role of community and accountability in building a business that runs without you


• Midori’s definition of true success—and why it has nothing to do with a dollar amount

If you’ve ever wished selling could feel more natural, confident, and completely in alignment with your values, this conversation is your permission slip to reimagine what’s possible.