In this solo episode, I explore a perspective that might surprise you - that the solution to burnout isn’t always rest. 

Drawing on my own experience of hitting burnout as an HR leader, I share why stepping back isn’t always enough, and how real recovery often requires deeper reflection, change, and courage. 

Using insights from Nick Petrie’s research on the three degrees of burnout, I unpack how to recognise what stage you’re in and what kind of response will actually help you heal.

From setting boundaries to rethinking your purpose and even making bold life changes, this episode offers practical wisdom for leaders who are tired of running on empty. 

If you’re questioning whether a holiday is really what you need - or if it’s time for something more transformative - this conversation will give you both clarity and compassion as you take your next brave step.

Here are the highlights:

Sobering stats on leadership and HR burnout (01:34 )

Understanding the three degrees of burnout (5:00 )

My personal story: from thriving to survival mode (7:29 )

When rest wasn’t enough (10:00 )

The power of boundaries and saying no (12:30 )

Building a business aligned with my values (15:00 )

Why self-reflection, not escape, is the real medicine (17:01 )

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