Yaroslav Hrytsak is one of Ukraine’s leading historians and public intellectuals. His recent book in Ukrainian, "Overcoming the Past: A Global History of Ukraine", became a bestseller. His English-language book, "Ukraine: The Forging of a Nation", is now a key reference work on Ukrainian history.

We met in Lviv to discuss the global dimension of Ukrainian history, and the features of Ukraine’s political culture that explain why the country has so often fought against tyranny.

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"Thinking in Dark Times" is produced by UkraineWorld, an English-language media project about Ukraine.

We try to see the light through and despite today's darkness.

Host: Volodymyr Yermolenko, a Ukrainian philosopher, editor-in-chief of UkraineWorld, and president of PEN Ukraine.

This episode is made in partnership with Kyiv-Mohyla Academy and the project Heritage Ukraine, supported by the European Union’s Erasmus programme.

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CONTENTS:

00:00 — The untold global story of Ukraine
01:33 — Why the world can’t ignore Ukrainian history
03:06 — Why world wars revolved around Ukraine
06:02 — Russia’s dangerous dream of the 21st century
09:28 — Good empires vs. bad empires
14:13 — The empire paradox
17:27 — Russia’s secret weapon: violence
20:59 — Why Ukrainian nobles felt “freer” than Russians
30:31 — Ukraine’s miracle: democracy against all odds
33:35 — Breaking the myth of Moscow’s “Third Rome”
37:06 — Khmelnytsky’s gamble: alliances that changed history
41:28 — Ukraine’s naive hope: negotiating within the empire
44:13 — The only way to stop Russia’s imperial comeback
48:53 — Why history still matters