I’ve been pretty curious for a long time why it is that as soon as there’s the faintest nip of cold in the September air, I’m immediately in my flannel stuff and listening to For Emma Forever Ago and relating every line of it to every girl that I have ever been in a committed monogamous relationship with or seen in line at the bagel place. It’s genuinely sort of strange how seasons can affect our moods and the music we listen to during them, and Allie Baughman stopped by to talk about the whole thing.

We got pretty deep here into some mysticism stuff, the nature of aesthetics, and how we’re tied much closer to the natural world than our iOS 11-crippled iPhones would like us to believe. It may sound a bit off the beaten path for you but this was genuinely one of my favorite conversations I’ve had in quite some time.