Culinary author, prolific YouTuber, dual podcaster, double Master, former Minister, and decade-long Cantonese teacher Winnie Mak joins me to discuss growing up in Hong Kong as a chill kid in a stressful educational system, being accepted to the prestigious University of Hong Kong, studying English and Japanese, finding joy and burnout in the ministry, escaping Hong Kong in 2019 for the American West, and lots more.

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