Well-rounded multimedia producer and former music journalist Ryan Stephenson Price stops by to continue our journey through the early aughts and to go to where the podcast has never gone before: pop punk! Yellowcard’s violin gimmick didn’t win them a lot of fans with critics, but they were much loved by sort-of-angry teenagers everywhere – and then they sort of went away, and then came back, and then went away, but not really, and now they’re back again! We discuss the commercial rise of pop punk (and where it went), cynicism versus idealism versus the evil pragmatism of wanting to make money as a musician, the technical and theoretical challenge of being a drummer and the millennial obsession with nostalgia.