This is a special conversational episode. Christian (Zenki Roshi) is interviewed by Dr. Greg Madison, a British psychologist and psychotherapist. More than usual, Christian connects the concepts and practices he teaches with his own biographical journey. In the beginning, the conversation centers around Christian's encounter of and interest in Gene Gendlin's philosophy and his psychotherapeutic method and social practice called Focusing. One of Gendlin's core concepts is 'Felt Sense," which plays a prominent role in Christian's life story and approach to Zen. Greg and Christian explore the differences and commonalities between Focusing practice and Zen (or spiritual practice in general). An ongoing theme throughout the conversation is the nature of the self and the importance of the personal, a dimension that Buddhism is prone to bypass when emphasizing the idea of non-self. Other topics are: authenticity, metal posture, Buddhism as transformative phenomenology, ritual as mutual embodiment practice, study of attention (focus and field), the spiritual dimension, the antidotal nature of teachings, and the personal as an expression of the whole.

This interview was originally published on Greg Madison's podcast, The Living Process with Greg Madison.

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Zenki Christian Dillo Roshi is the the guiding teacher at the Boulder Zen Center in Colorado, USA. This podcast shares the regular dharma talks given at the center. Zenki Roshi approaches Zen practice as a craft of transformation, liberation, wisdom and compassionate action. His interest is to bring Buddhism alive within the Western cultural context, while staying committed to the traditional emphasis on embodiment.