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Zooko Wilcox and Josh Swihart: Unstoppable Private Money

Zooko Wilcox and Josh Swihart: Unstoppable Private Money

Update: 2025-06-03
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My conversation with Zooko Wilcox and Josh Swihart on unstoppable private money.

Zooko Wilcox is a legendary cypherpunk and one of the founders of Zcash—private, digital money.

Josh Swihart is the CEO of Electric Coin Company, the team behind the Zcash protocol and the Zashi wallet app.

Topics we discuss are well captured by the timestamps below.

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Timestamps

0:00 - Maya Protocol integrates with Zcash

3:52 - Coinbase social engineering attack

7:43 - Private money negates capital controls

14:13 - Privacy comes from money at rest

18:24 - The Zashi effect and future roadmap

25:11 - Project Tachyon

39:10 - Zcash’s anonymity set doesn’t depend on the number of its users

45:37 - Turnstiles in Zcash and the 2018 inflation bug

57:28 - “ZK” has become a marketing stunt among crypto projects

59:48 - On Binance delisting ZEC

1:01:35 - A transition toward using crypto as it was originally intended

1:04:52 - Should exchanges use transparent addresses?

1:17:38 - Coin holder voting in Zcash

1:23:38 - Sci-fi influence

1:28:37 - Gary Gensler

1:29:40 - Why I like Zcash

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Zooko Wilcox and Josh Swihart: Unstoppable Private Money

Zooko Wilcox and Josh Swihart: Unstoppable Private Money

Arjun Khemani