In this episode, we speak with Dr Julie Warner, a research analyst at the US Department of Education. Julie is a NBCT, has worked as an education policy advisor for Sen Al Franken and the Office of the White House, and has served as Tech Director for the Coastal Savannah Writing Project. We talk with Julie about personalized learning, micro-credentials, literacy in the maker movement, and several of her personal projects and books. 

17:35 - Julie's new book

20:40 - Julie's views on personalized learning

27:24 - Micro-credentialing

45:35 - Literacy and the Maker Movement

59:35 - Julie's new book and mistakes we've made

1.32:35 - Teenagers learning with and through smart phones

1.44:35 - Closing

*All views expressed are Julie's personal views and do not represent the views of the US Department of Education