This week I am joined by ~Sam & ~Camille, who are well-known for their comfy, chill worlds in VRChat. Sam is the creator of Cozy Apartment and other “cozy” worlds, and together they have created a series of “soft” worlds including Soft Space and Soft Sea.

In this conversation we talk about how they met in Final Fantasy, the philosophy behind their signature styles, and tactics for attracting visitors.