Today's podcast features Audrey Tang. She's the current Cyber Ambassador of Taiwan, a principal author of the book Plurality, and a major inspiration for my approach to tech.

Audrey is like no other politician you will ever encounter. She's a middle school dropout and an autodidact. She has worked on Siri at Apple and founded startups before joining the pro-democracy Sunflower Movement and then the Taiwanese government.

Among other things, we discuss:

- Substack, Bluesky, and Partiful as pro-social media

- What DOGE gets wrong about hacking the bureaucracy

- How LLMs can scale citizen participation

- Going from a consumer to a producer society

- Audrey’s live-stream with Laura Loomer

Read the full transcript and links at jasmi.news.

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