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Chatting About Change with Dr. Jim Maddox

Author: Jim Maddox

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Chatting About Change is about organizational change and helping individuals and organizations experience life to the fullest, and engaging in positive, transformational change. I am a university professor, OD consultant, and Change Strategist. Each episode I will engage in conversations with a guest from diverse backgrounds around the topic of change.
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My guest this episode is Michael Clifford, who combines his unique talents of zoo science and conservation with his expertise in organization development and change in his role as the Strategy Director for Reverse the Red. Reverse the Red is a global movement that ignites strategic cooperation and action to ensure the survival of wild species and ecosystems and reverse the negative trend of biodiversity loss. Michael shares how he utilizes OD concepts in facilitating strategic change and building partnerships and coalitions, among governments, various partner organizations, and communities.  We discuss how he uses his unique skill set to facilitate change, in an environment where he has no authority or power, just the ability to understand ecosystems and systems in general, and the ability to cast a vision and provide a pathway for change to occur.  The chat is a great example of process consulting skills in action.  The conversation also highlights the value of cross-cultural competencies in working within diverse communities and systems.  Michael mentions that with 196 different countries, there are 196 different ways of approaching conservation.
My guest this episode is Ron Banerjee, who is an experienced Change Leader, Financial Advisor, Speaker, Author, and Innovator.  Ron is also the Vice President of Partnerships and Affiliations for the International Organization Development Association (IODA).  Ron shares his Rapid Response Organization Development (RROD) model, which is featured in a chapter of the recently released book, “Building a Coaching Culture”.  Ron and I discuss the value of approaching OD efforts rapidly and how the process does not necessarily need to take a year to intervene in an organization.  Ron shares his interactions with Ed Schein and David Cooperrider in the development of his RROD model.  The model is a great tool to have for anyone who is tasked with guiding change in an organization.
My guest this episode is Dave Jamieson, Ph. D., retired professor and president of the Jamieson Consulting Group. He is passionate about coaching & teaching to change the way we change & change the way we lead.  He is dedicated to organizational leaders becoming more skilled at change leadership and systemic solutions and integrating the increasing complexity of technology with the need of supporting the humanity of their employees and customers.  We discuss how many people in organizations do change in ways that doesn’t pay enough attention to what it takes for human beings to move past their resistance and to be a part of the change.  Much of the focus is on what it is about the work that needs to change and overlooks the role of the people in change.  Dave discusses how change itself is changing.  The environment used to be stable which allowed change to be something you could manage as a separate project.  Today, the change must be integrated with the people who are doing the work and be led by those directly engaged with the change.  The need now is to approach change from a very systemic lens, and we need to understand the complexity and disruptive nature of change in very interdependent systems.
My guest this episode is Scott Spradlin, who is a consultant, educator & media developer at Wise Mind, Wise Life: Engage, Enchant, Elevate.  Scott is a licensed Dialectical Behavior Therapist, and author of the book, “Don't Let Your Emotions Run Your Life: How Dialectical Behavior Therapy Can Put You in Control”.  Scott provides education and workshops on Dialectic Behavior Therapy (DBT), Mindfulness, and has a special passion for working with those with ADHD.  We discuss the changing landscape of mental health practices and dive into what is meant by wisdom and having a wise mind.  Scott shares his ideas and strategies on more deeply understanding one’s self, managing one’s emotions, and living your best life. Scott shares his insights and perspective on what is meant by the idea of dialectic and what is so impactful about the use of DBT as an approach to mental health. 
My guest this episode is Kathryn Goetzke, the Chief Hope Officer at the Shine Hope Company.  She is activating the science of hope globally.  She shares her personal story and her passion around the science of hope and how she is bringing her ideas to organizations, schools, and communities around the globe.  We discuss the widespread pattern of a sense of hopelessness, especially among our youth.  She shares some of her fundamental ideas, which you can find in her recent book, The Biggest Little Book About Hope. 
My guest this episode is Dr. Brandon Rogers.  He shares his insightful and powerful story of his educational journey and his professional journey and how has and continues to leverage his passion for people and systems into helping organizations thrive.  He has worked with a wide range of organizations, including cyberspace, automotive, and the software industry, among others. We discuss the challenges and rewards of beginning and maintaining a solo organization development consulting company. 
My guest this episode is Alex Cawthon, who is a Strategic Talent Partner, for a fortune 500 company.  She shares how her 3 core values shape how she shows up and how she approaches her work.  Her 3 core values are simplicity, understanding, and courage and she discusses how these provide the framework for working authentically in all areas of her life.  We discuss her approach to change of using the framework of ‘why, how, and what’ and the ways she uses the lens of her core values to help her organization answer these critical questions. 
My guest this episode is Mary Quant.   Mary combines her unique skills in organization development and design thinking, to partner with global business leaders to accelerate business strategies and execute people- and organization-focused solutions. We discuss how she works with cross-functional teams to challenge the status quo and navigate ambiguity at the intersection of people experience, design thinking and technology.  She describes how she uses visual sensemaking in guiding change along with culture mapping.  Mary shares her passion and obsession with helping individuals, teams and organizations achieve peak performance, and helping them create healthy, creative, and inclusive cultures. We discuss some creative and innovate ways to work in the virtual space so many organizations are operating in.
My guest this week is Dr. Kimberley Barker, who is on the faculty of Eastern Michigan University, is the author of the book, “You Can Create Positive Change at Work!”  Kim shares her experience and passion for helping each individual find their purpose in their work and helping guide positive culture change.  We discuss her extensive role in the International Society of Organization Development and Change (ISODC) and she shares strategies which everyone can employ in creating positive change. In addition to her recent book, you can find lots of great content on Dr. Barker’s YouTube Channel, where she hosts some great guests and insightful and meaning content.
My guest this week is Tony Martin, a People Analytics Consultant for a large multinational company.  Tony shares how he moved into the field by combining his psychology and social work background with his organization development training to bring a human-centered approach to change management and organizational performance.  Tony and I discuss how he has combined his unique skill set to go beyond the numbers, by asking meaningful questions, and engaging in conversations to uncover what data really matters.  He discusses how he is passionate about helping develop organizations and crafting stories that engage others.
My guest this episode is Greg Collier, who is from New South Wales, in Australia.  Greg is an experienced senior executive who is motivated by the potential of people, specializing in organization development, and is highly skilled at driving people-focused solutions that achieve positive cultural change.  Greg shares some fascinating cultural aspects of Australia in terms of leadership and organizational life, as well as some of his consulting experiences from around the globe. He highlights some of the unique cultural nuances that influence how leaders function and how culture is shaped and changed.  Greg shares some fascinating research from Dr. John Evans and understanding leadership in an Australian context, particularly around the important role volunteering plays in Australian culture.  Greg closes our podcast with a powerful and simple job description for leaders; to care for your people and support them in doing what they need to do.  Nothing else.  When a leader cares and supports their people, they play the role of a teacher, a security giver, an encourager, and a nurturer.  If an organization does those things, great things will happen, and you’ll get great culture.  
My guest this episode is Eric Lynn, a consultant, facilitator, and coach, focused on cultivating healthy organizations and generating meaningful conversations about life, culture, and change.  Eric is the creator of cultureQs, a Change and Integration Accelerator that that uses powerful questions to inspire participants to reflect on the foundations of their beliefs, attitudes and behaviors.  Eric is also the author of the book, Dancing with Change:  Cultivating Healthy Organizations.  Eric and I discuss his passion and unique approach to doing meaningful organizational work, and he shares his unique international perspective, having lived and consulted on four different continents.  Our discussion really high lights the unique aspect of doing organization development work and how it is difficult to define and does not fit neatly into any boxes or match any easy labels, and this is the richness and value of what we do.You can find more information about Eric Lynn and his resources he offers at https://cultureqs.com/
My guest this episode is Peter Kalmar, Founding and Managing Partner of Flow International, and former President of IODA, the International OD Association.  Peter shares his story of his consulting firm, and how it evolved from the work of Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi, who wrote the book, Finding Flow.  Peter describes how his consulting firm uses the concept of Flow in developing leaders and in guiding organizational change, particularly around culture change.  We discuss the role of balance between challenges and skills to create optimum conditions for achieving flow.  
My guest this episode is Angie Keister, Ph.D., from Colorado.  Dr. Keister shares her professional journey from her beginnings as an internal Organization Development consultant to her transition as an external consultant.  She offers some great insights about what she has learned from both perspectives and how it has helped in her consulting practice. We discuss some of her current projects and she shares useful approaches to getting employees engaged in change efforts.
My guests for this episode are Kristin and Ted Skantze, joining me from shores of Lake Michigan.  Ted is the former director of the non-profit organization Re-Member and former director of their board, and Kristin is a Nurse Practitioner who has worked for the past 20 years with Pine Ridge Indian Health Service on the Pine Ridge Reservation, in South Dakota.  They share their personal story of their involvement on the reservation, and discuss the impact around cultural understanding, and the importance of listening in helping to heal broken relationships and build connections and bring to attention to the truly resilient spirit of the indigenous people.  The term, Re-Member, refers to the idea of putting back together that which is broken, to re-member.  What has been broken is a trust, and the treatment and relationship with the Oglala Lakota people.  Through the work of Re-Member, volunteers have the opportunity to learn, and listen, and offer hope to those who have been marginalized, through relationship building and cultural understanding.  Rather than attempting to fix or change what those from outside the culture perceive needs to be changed, the focus is on understanding and appreciating the diversity of cultures.  I am reminded of the work of Edgar Schein, who developed the concept of Process Consultancy, which is built upon the foundation that assumes that “one can only help a human system to help itself”.  To learn more about volunteer opportunities with Re-Member, check out this link:  https://www.re-member.org/volunteering 
My guest this episode is Will Peters, a professional musician, high school teacher, community activist, and advocate for Native American youth.  Will, a member of the Oglala Lakota tribe, teaches and lives on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota.  Will shares his stories of the struggles and triumphs of life on the reservation and shares passionately about his work with the young people, who are struggling with generational trauma, and efforts to combat the suicide epidemic affecting the native youth on Pine Ridge.  I first met will about 10 years ago while volunteering with the organization Re-Member.  Re-Member is an independent, non-profit organization working with the Oglala Lakota Nation on the Pine Ridge Reservation in South Dakota https://www.re-member.org/Will speaks from the heart and his stories are powerful, challenging, and full of hope.  
My guest this episode is Kayshia Kruger, who is the organization development director for a small organization in North Carolina.  She shares how she has created, from the ground up, the organization development function in her organization of about 300 employees.  We discuss some of the interesting projects she is engaged in currently such as employee engagement, learning & development, leadership development, and change management.  A fascinating aspect of her role is how progressive her organization has been in terms of leveraging Organization Development.  She also shares how the Organization Development function is a completely separate function and is not part of the Human Resource department, which is somewhat unique, especially for a smaller organization.  
My guest this episode is Jackie Stavros, keynote speaker, professor, consultant, author, and creator of the SOAR methodology. Dr. Stavros shares how she developed the SOAR methodology, which has revolutionized strategic planning and organization development, by bringing to the forefront a strengths-based approach to guiding strategy and organizational change.  Jackie offers practical tips on how to successfully use the SOAR approach and how to facilitate conversations that create the space for organizations to create their own futures and grow and improve.  She also shares ideas from her latest book, “Conversations Worth Having:  Using Appreciative Inquiry to Fuel Productive and Meaningful Engagement”.  We discuss the key distinctions between mechanistic systems and human systems and the crucial role that engaging people in conversations plays in addressing human centered challenges.  At the heart of this is the notion of dialogue and dialogic organization development.
My guest this episode is Sara Bishop, a strategic communications consultant and runs her own organization, Orchid Communications.  She is also a faculty member at the University of Arkansas.  She shares her story of how she launched a communications business focused on working with nonprofits.  She shares her passion for helping organizations to bring awareness and social impact centered around authentic and aspirational stories that often involve difficult conversations about race and wealth.  With her strong background in communications, she describes the powerful role stories play in bringing awareness and facilitating social change and flipping the narrative around poverty and the culture that perpetuates false stories.
My guest this week is Joella Walker, a a licensed psychotherapist, Certified Spiritual Director, and shamanic practitioner.  She shares both her personal career journey and path as well as offers insights into helping others explore careers and life’s purpose.  Joella shares how she works from a strengths perspective and helps adults navigate anxiety, life transitions, relationships, loss, addiction and recovery, and personal growth.  We discuss how she helps her clients create balance, be their authentic selves, and get back in the driver’s seat of their lives.  
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Dayan A. Inclán

"For those without hope, consequences mean nothing." - T.A. Schenzel founder of Omaha Hope Center for Kids.

Oct 3rd
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