At Work with The Ready

Enterprise AI adoption is still stuck in the teens and the gap between the hype and the reality is getting harder to ignore. People are finding pockets of productivity, but they’re often keeping the gains to themselves, worried that “using AI well” is just speed-running their way into a layoff. Meanwhile, many leaders treat it like another piece of software without touching the messier truth: AI changes how work actually happens, and it doesn’t care about your org chart, your approval chains, or your performance theater. In this episode, Rodney sits down with Section CEO Greg Shove to name what’s really blocking adoption and what it takes to break through. They talk about AI as “co-intelligence”, why most “AI layoffs” are PR cover, and the non-negotiables for real transformation. They also get into how to build a robust AI strategy for 2026, Section’s own AI disruption, and why the next era may be dominated by super companies built around small human teams + a fleet of agents. Learn more about Greg: His website Section's website Prof.AI AI Truth Serum podcast -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Edelman's AI creators Chegg's downfall Moderna's AI usage Zapier's AI usage BOX's AI usage Dual Transformation Skunk Works Mary Barra "amazon.bomb" Stanford AI study 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s something happening in the AI hype cycle that drives you nuts right now? 03:21 Enterprise AI adoption stall out 08:58 AI as truth serum for lies in your company 11:49 Required ingredients for real AI transformation 19:04 Balancing risk with AI usage in startups and large enterprise 24:10 “Head of AI” roles are an uphill battle 27:48 First principles for an AI-lead organization 30:10 Disrupting your business model with AI and dual transformation 35:29 Greg and Section disrupting themselves with AI 37:44 Role of leadership in an AI future 44:40 Future of companies and careers 47:54 Role of companies in future of society 52:07 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with a coworker! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Leaders often ask for a clear, immediate ROI on org design and transformation work—but that question can derail the conversation before it even starts. When ROI is framed purely as short-term financial return, it misses how organizations actually change and improve over time. In this mini Ask Us Anything episode, Rodney and Sam unpack how to approach ROI conversations in org design more productively. They explore why separate “transformation metrics” usually miss the point, how to anchor ROI to what leaders already care about, and why leading indicators like decision speed, cycle time, and meeting effectiveness matter more than tidy quarterly savings. Mentioned references: W. Edwards Deming Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's talk!⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

As 2025 comes to a close, AI hype is still everywhere, workers are feeling the strain of constant change, and organizations are quietly reorganizing who (or what) does the work. We’re ending the year with some big questions: What happens to the “middle” of organizations? How do humans fit into increasingly AI-driven systems? And where does real value—human and otherwise—get created? With only a few days left until the new year, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin look ahead to how AI, jobs, and organizational life will shift in 2026—from real white-collar displacement and the rise of internal org-design teams to employees quietly choosing AI over difficult human teammates. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: "⁠US military met recruiting goals ahead of schedule" "AI workslop" "Steam game marketplace, AI labeling" 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s a reflection you have on 2025? 03:44 Prediction 1: Hype cycle around AGI will break 05:03 Prediction 2: 2026 is tipping point for white collar AI job disruption 09:53 Prediction 3: Demand for internal OD teams increases 12:11 Prediction 4: People will start choosing AI over their coworkers for collab 15:04 Prediction 5: Divide between legacy orgs and AI-native micro orgs will grow 17:48 Prediction 6: New premium on human-crafted products and experience 21:57 Wrap up: Leave us a review, and see you in 2026 Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Many people who want to work in organizational change hit the same question: is it better to do this work from inside an organization, or from the outside as a consultant? In this AUA mini episode, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin respond to a listener who’s considering a career shift into org change and wrestling with whether internal transformation teams can really drive meaningful change—or whether outside consultants have more leverage. They unpack why internal org design teams are often constrained by design, where they can work when positioned well (hint: it’s probably not HR), and why external consulting offers faster learning through sheer volume of reps. They also explore how you can start doing work design and change work without holding a formal transformation title. Hear the episode this question was in response to: AWWTR Ep. 28 Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠Let's talk!⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Everyone knows performance management is broken—but we keep doing it anyway. Why? For decades, organizations have poured time, money, and emotional energy into performance management—even though almost everyone agrees it’s broken. Annual reviews take hundreds of hours, distort real feedback, collapse development into compensation, and leave both managers and employees frustrated. Worse, they often lower performance rather than improve it. And yet most companies keep doubling down on a system that was never designed for how people actually grow, learn, or work today. In this episode, Rodney and Sam rethink performance management from the ground up. They unpack why traditional systems fail, which psychological dynamics make feedback so fraught, and what a truly useful approach would look like if we started from scratch. From separating the four conflated “jobs” of performance management and designing for real development, to using AI as a feedback partner rather than a faster paperwork generator—they explore practical ways to build a process that actually helps people get better at their work. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: "performance management makes performance worse" ASSCATS ("Anything to Stop, Start, Continue After This Session?"), first discussed in BNW Ep. 65 with Alastair Steward "stress-performance curve" "Meta performance management with AI" "Josh Bersin episode" Granola 00:00 Intro + Check-In: Why is Sam still on the podcast when he left The Ready? 03:01 The Pattern: Performance management SUCKS, but we keep doing it 06:10 It’s trying to do too many jobs 07:54 We’re lied to about the purpose 11:19 It’s time consuming 14:10 The charade causes psychological harm and stunts growth 17:00 Rethinking PM from the ground up 18:14 Center the user 20:30 Easier process more frequently 23:15 Vary the size and type of feedback 26:09 Actually define what good ACTUALLY looks like by outcomes 29:21 Feedback in the context of an individual’s journey 32:59 AI’s role in future of performance management 46:02 AI’s role in the performance management of teams 50:30 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with a coworker! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Every organization eventually hits the same wall: central teams aren’t responsive enough, federated teams reinvent everything, and the result is a messy tug-of-war between alignment and autonomy. IT organizations feel this pain especially acutely. In this mini Ask Us Anything episode, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin unpack why centralized vs. decentralized is a false binary, why organizations swing endlessly between the two, and what it actually takes to design a federated model that works in the real world. Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠Let's talk!⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Get the Experiment Proposal Template mentioned in this episode. Everyone says they want to “experiment” at work—especially now that AI is reshaping how teams operate—but most organizations still treat change like a project plan: analyze, design, roll out, hope for the best. The result? Fake experiments that are over-controlled and over-planned, or chaotic side projects that burn people out and quietly die. In systems this complex, you can’t think your way to the right answer, but you can test and learn your way there. In this episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig into what real experimentation looks like inside organizations. They unpack why complexity demands an iterative approach, why so many “tests” are doomed from the start, and what it takes to scaffold experiments with the right authority, resourcing, and constraints. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Adam Grant's astrology post Previous experimentation episode: BNW Ep. 62 Aaron Dignan Charter management science operating rhythm: BNW Ep. 118 sunk cost Even/Over WIP (work in progress) The Ready's Experiment Proposal Template 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s a personal experiment you’ve done recently or are thinking about doing? 03:42 The Pattern: Desire for control and lack of structure stifles real experimentation 06:37 Parallels to R&D for pharmaceuticals 09:37 What’s missing in most company experiments 11:35 Example of The Ready’s experimentation 17:01 If everything succeeds, they aren’t experiments 22:21 Learning and scaling successful experiments is really hard 28:23 Ripple effects of experiments are just as important 30:00 Unstructured experimentation is deeply costly 34:57 Navigating the discomfort during experiments 37:28 Idea #1 - Create intentional space for learning 38:51 Idea #2 - The Ready’s Experiment Template 44:35 Idea #3 - No experiments for other people 46:10 Idea #4 - Prepare yourself for disappointment 48:48 Wrap up: leave us a review and share the show with your coworkers! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

How do you bring people along when you’re already living in the future? In this mini episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin tackle a listener question about how to lead from the future without alienating your coworkers in the present. They explore what happens when you see change coming before others do—and how to turn that foresight into small, credible experiments that earn trust and build momentum. They discuss: — Why being “a few years ahead” can feel lonely and frustrating — How to communicate big ideas without overwhelming your team — Turning visionary thinking into real, testable action — What to do when your organization isn’t ready for what you see coming — How to build community with other forward thinkers Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠Let's talk!⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

It’s easy to blame “kids these days” when generational tension flares up at work. But beneath the eye rolls and stereotypes are deeper forces (economic shifts, social movements, and broken workplace systems) that shape how each generation sees loyalty, ambition, and success. From Boomers to Gen Z, we’ve all inherited stories about what work should look like and they don’t always fit the world we’re in now. In this episode, Rodney Evans sits down with Raven Solomon—author, keynote speaker, and CEO of the Future-Ready Institute—to explore what it really takes to lead across generations. They unpack what leaders need to unlearn in this moment, how Gen Z’s relationship to work is reshaping culture, and why inclusion and empathy—not authority—are the future of leadership. Learn more about Raven and her work: At her website Follow her on LinkedIn Future-Ready Friday webinar with Rodney -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Sword of Damocles Brené Brown "Gen X only generation to recover from 2008 recession" Fiverr Conway's Law "forming, storming, norming" Alvin Toffler generational theory "report where future of work skills no longer tech related" 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s something about your profession you can’t say on stage but wish people knew? 04:07 What power holders have to unlearn about younger generations 10:29 Gen Z’s changing relationship to work and capitalism 15:33 Opting out of taking leadership roles for better quality of life 20:25 The business and financial stakes behind real inclusion 29:15 Authenticity should be the cornerstone to all your strategies and messaging 32:38 The difficulties and business trade offs behind inclusion 39:54 Importance of human centered skills in this decade 44:50 Raven’s top skills to develop for the future of work 48:17 AI’s impact on the upcoming generations in the workplace 54:26 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with your colleagues! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

What happens when your small European company gets acquired by a massive American one? In this mini Ask Us Anything episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig into what really happens when mergers cross not just company lines—but cultures. They unpack the hidden dynamics behind clashing values, communication styles, and leadership expectations that make cross-border integrations so difficult. They discuss: — Why culture work is always the hardest (and most ignored) part of a merger — What to do when your smaller team has limited influence — How to bring your company’s best practices into a much bigger system — The difference between American and European work norms — How to protect your culture—and your energy—during integration Looking for more advice about mergers and acquisitions? Check out this episode: AWWTR Ep. 32 Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠Let's talk!⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Get the AI Coffee Club toolkit to start one at your own organization: Download here! AI isn’t coming—it’s here. Every organization is already feeling its impact, whether through new tools, shifting expectations, or the quiet panic of not knowing where to start. But most companies are doing what they always do: treating transformation like a plan instead of an experiment. And as AI reshapes how work gets done, the biggest risk isn’t falling behind—it’s automating the dysfunctions you already have. In this episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin take their first deep dive into AI since 2023. They unpack why AI acts as a mirror for your organization’s operating system, how hesitation and hype are both clouding judgment, and what it looks like to design meaningful ways to learn and experiment instead of performative roadmaps. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠⁠Let's talk.⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Little Caesar's and Detroit Redwings connection The Ready's AI Coffee Club Dot-com bubble polarities in tension "traditional consulting episode": AWWTR Ep. 8 conference Rodney refers to: Charter Workplace Summit "AI as translation layer podcast" (actually an article) 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’s good? 03:13 The Pattern: AI is a mirror for everything in your org, and probably making it worse 09:48 Importance of doing your own research, even if you’re a skeptic 12:35 Treating AI as a paint job on your broken org won’t fix anything 16:30 The role of humans at work right now 21:03 Importance of real scaffolding to do this work 24:14 Recasting IT as the enabler rather than the traffic cop 28:03 Nobody is an expert yet and there is no roadmap 33:43 The easiest idea with AI usually isn’t the best one 39:28 What Rodney and Sam are hopeful about with AI 44:23 Counter ideas for engaging with AI 47:10 Wrap up: leave us a review and share the show with your coworkers Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

How do you change the way work happens when everyone agrees on what to do—but no one wants to change how it’s done? In this mini episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin tackle a listener question about navigating change inside legacy systems where authority, tradition, and “the way we’ve always done it” still rule. They explore why emotional loyalty to old processes can stall transformation, and how small experiments and “pair coding for organizational change” can help teams actually evolve their ways of working. Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? Let's talk! Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Burnout has become the quiet epidemic of modern work. We tell people to “set better boundaries” or “take more time off,” but the real problem isn’t a lack of self-care—it’s that most organizations are designed to exhaust their people. Fear-based cultures, unclear priorities, and performative busyness have turned overwork into a badge of honor, leaving even the most capable teams running on fumes. In this episode, Rodney and Sam unpack the systemic roots of burnout and why it thrives inside traditional hierarchies. They explore how teams accidentally reinforce it, how leaders unknowingly reward it, and share real steps to change the system instead of blaming individuals. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? ⁠Let's talk.⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.⁠ Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: "77% of professionals feel burned out" Prisoner's dilemma Theory Y "American teen experiences as much anxiety as 1950s psych patient" "job market hellscape article" Herbert Freudenberger and 12 stages of burnout "4 day workweek better human outcomes" 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What’a silly or inconsequential project to you’ve done just for fun? 03:23 The Pattern: Systemic burnout keeps being met with individual solves, which leads to more burnout 08:21 Team burnout red flag 1: Overhelptfulness 11:10 Team burnout red flag 2: Defeatism 14:04 Team burnout red flag 3: Procrastination 16:44 Team burnout red flag 4: Overwork on busywork 20:41 Team burnout red flag 5: Impatience 23:35 Burnout is tied to short-termism and fear 27:30 Bureaucracy and gaslighting 29:10 Idea 1: Combat busyness with an outcome audit 32:49 Idea 2: Clarify ways of working to cut through bureaucracy 34:29 Idea 3: Design defaults and rules that reduce systemic burnout 36:14 Idea 4: Learn your own burnout symptoms to steer the ship before you reach critical mass 42:00 Idea 5: Enforce work-in-product limits for your team 45:55 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with your colleagues Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

What happens when your promotion puts you in charge of your former boss? In this mini Ask Us Anything episode of At Work with The Ready, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin answer a listener’s question about one of the trickiest transitions a leader can face—managing the people who used to manage you. They explore how to navigate power shifts, handle ego and shame dynamics, and reset team expectations without alienating anyone. Along the way, they share practical advice for rebuilding trust, holding clear boundaries, and making tough calls when improvement just isn’t happening. Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? Let's talk: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theready.com/working-together⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Every worker has a bad boss story—but why are they so common? In this two-part series, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig into the archetypes of dysfunctional leaders and the systems that keep them in power. Because bad bosses aren’t accidents—they’re often a predictable response to organizational pressures. In Part 2, they take on the Ghost—the slippery, conflict-avoiding boss who’s always hard to find when decisions need to be made—and the Self-Promoter, the credit-stealing leader who thrives on claiming other people’s work as their own. From the frustration of canceled one-on-ones to the demoralization of stolen ideas, Rodney and Sam unpack why these archetypes persist, what drives their behavior, and how you can protect yourself (and your team) without burning out. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? Let's talk. Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Part 1 of Bad Boss conversation "Sam and Wilbur": DF Miniseries Ep. 6 check in round "antiwork subreddit" 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What is the phrase going on your tombstone? 03:37 Recap of part 1 04:46 Bad Boss 4: The Ghost 08:24 Dealing with The Ghost 10:52 Bad Boss 5: The Self-Promoter 11:49 Source of the credit-stealing behaviors 15:24 Dealing with The Self-Promoter 21:08 What all bad bosses have in common 23:26 Self-preservation is always a valid strategy 25:56 Wrap up: leave us a review and send us your bad boss stories! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

We’re trying something new: mini Ask Us Anything episodes! Instead of waiting for our quarterly Q&A roundups, we’ll drop shorter conversations into your feed every other week where Rodney and Sam tackle one great listener question at a time. This week’s question: How should OD and change consultants handle unfavorable peer feedback in 360 reviews—especially when it’s happening among the leaders just under the CEO? They explore why peer feedback so often turns into power struggles, how incentive structures fuel a “Hunger Games” mentality, and why leaders must shift from interpersonal drama to organizational design. Got a work question like this one you'd like us to answer? Email us at podcast@theready.com -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? Let's talk: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theready.com/working-together⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Patrick Lencioni and "First Team" The Ready's OS Canvas Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Every worker has a bad boss story—but why are they so common? In this two-parter, Rodney Evans and Sam Spurlin dig into the archetypes of dysfunctional leaders and the systems that keep them in power. Because bad bosses aren’t accidents—they’re often a predictable response to organizational pressures. In Part 1, they take on the Micromanager, the Rager, and the Martyr. From obsessive control and volcanic tempers to bosses who never log off, these archetypes reveal the deeper fears and systemic incentives driving destructive behavior. Along the way, Rodney and Sam share strategies for surviving each type, plus insights for executives who may be unknowingly creating the conditions for bad bosses to thrive. -------------------------------- Ready to change your organization? Let's talk: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theready.com/working-together⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Paris Geller as the boss, The Gilmore Girls Yzme, The Emperor's New Groove 00:00 Intro + Check-In: Who’s your favorite bad boss from TV or movies? 02:38 The Pattern: Bad bosses are the product of the system that promoted them 04:30 Bad Boss 1: The Micromanager 06:52 Micromanagers stamp out innovation and emergent ideas 10:11 The source of micromanagement behavior 11:25 Dealing with The Micromanager 14:17 Bad Boss 2: The Rager 15:50 Rage is used to mask vulnerability 19:04 Dealing with The Rager 22:13 The source of ragers and the orgs that enable them 25:27 Bad Boss 3: The Martyr 30:24 Dealing with The Martyr 32:33 Being the boss to The Martyr 34:19 Time of The Martyr is ending 36:05 Wrap up: More bad bosses next time! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

Most of us think we know ourselves (and the people we work with) pretty well. But when tensions rise, deadlines loom, or feedback lands wrong, the truth comes out: we’re all running on a set of deep, often invisible patterns. What if we could see those patterns clearly, and choose something better? Enter the Enneagram: a framework that maps nine core motivations, survival strategies, and ways of seeing the world. This week, Rodney sits down with Liz Orr, author of The Unfiltered Enneagram and the voice behind Rude Ass Enneagram, to explore how this tool can help us understand ourselves, our teammates, and the hidden drivers behind workplace friction. From recognizing your own “midnight zone” work to navigating type-to-type dynamics, Liz shares practical insights for breaking unhelpful patterns, building trust, and working more compassionately with others. Learn more about Liz: On Instagram: @rudeassenneagram Read her book: The Unfiltered Enneagram -------------------------------- Let's work together: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theready.com/working-together⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: Midnight Zone and Depthfinding Myers-Briggs DISC assessment Enneagram Type descriptions Enneagram Type combinations "the hero's journey" 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What would you be doing if it wasn’t this? 03:30 What is the Enneagram? 06:26 101 course on the Nine Types of the Enneagram 14:04 When your Type solidifies 15:15 Exploring Rodney’s Type as an example 20:44 How Types interact 23:19 Using the Enneagram to recognize and break your own patterns 26:54 Eights as leaders (CEOs, CFOs) tend to fight every battle 29:54 Debunking cultural gender stereotypes around the Enneagram 34:21 Understanding what we’re “getting” in return for our behavior 37:22 Navigating the cringe of self-compassion and forgiveness 44:59 Dealing with “therapy language performance” from friends and coworkers 48:03 The Enneagram’s role in the workplace 50:21 Overcoming the dismissal of “soft skills” and “soft power 52:50 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with your coworkers! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

In most companies, mergers and acquisitions (M&A) is treated like a finish line. But the truth is, signing the deal is just the start—and if you haven’t thought deeply about how two operating systems, cultures, and teams will actually work together, you’re already behind. The vast majority of M&A efforts fail to deliver long-term value, not because the deal was bad, but because the integration never really happened. This week, Rodney and Sam unpack why M&A is so alluring, so broken, and so often misunderstood. From boardroom incentives and CEO ego to missing strategy and magical thinking, they dig into what really drives the endless appetite for acquisition—and why the actual design work of merging two organizations is almost always underfunded, under-led, or completely ignored. -------------------------------- Let's work together: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theready.com/working-together⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: "reorg ep": AWWTR Ep. 31 "70-75% of M&A fails" Ben Thompson and Stratechery AOL/Time Warner merger Microsoft/Nokia merger "LARPing" "OS work": The Ready's OS Canvas "Midnight Zone and Twilight Zone": The Ready's Depthfinding ecotones "Microsoft innovation" Rob Cross and Organizational Network Analysis (ONA) McChrystal Group mission-based team (MBT): FoHR Miniseries, Episode 1 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What is something you’ve done recently that seemed like a good idea but has since proven otherwise? 04:01 The Pattern: Companies acquire others for growth, merge goes bad, so have to acquire another 09:54 Big visible activities with very unclear ROI 14:09 Buying innovation because you can’t innovate internally 19:15 Destroying all the qualities that made the target company valuable 24:34 Mergers and acquisitions buy CEOs longer tenures 28:19 Our culture celebrates the big swings, not the steady transformation 30:35 Executive attention vanishes once the deal is signed, but that’s when the real work starts 38:43 Idea #1 - Let acquired company operate independently for as long as possible 41:35 Idea #2 - Use organizational network analysis to find and utilize your leverage points 44:14 Idea #3 - Spin up a real mission-based team around integration, or due diligence 46:18 Idea #4 - During due diligence, look at more than just the financial spreadsheets 47:08 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with a friend! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.

It’s reorg season…again. And for many companies, it always is. Every 12 to 18 months, another wave of layoffs, leadership swaps, and org chart redraws rolls through the system. And yet, little changes. Strategy stalls. Trust erodes. Work doesn’t get better, just messier. So why do so many organizations keep reaching for the reorg lever first? This week, Rodney and Sam unpack the seductive logic (and systemic failure) of reorgs as a change strategy. They dig into why structure work always feels like the fastest, most visible move a leader can make and why it so rarely delivers. Along the way, they explore the very real fallout of these moves on culture, trust, and performance, and offer smarter starting points for those considering a shake-up. -------------------------------- Let's work together: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.theready.com/working-together⁠⁠⁠⁠ Get our newsletter: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Sign up here⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow us: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ -------------------------------- Mentioned references: The Ready's OS Canvas "16% of reorgs deliver the expected value" Sunshine, Twilight, and Midnight Zones: The Ready's Depthfinding "layoffs episode": Brave New Work Ep. 152 Team Topologies, 2019 book by Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais holacracy sociocracy "retention increase if you have a best friend at work" "new job is one of the most stressful life events": Holmes and Rahe stress scale, see combined score of “dismissal from work”, “change to different line of work”, and “Change in responsibilities at work” DAO Miniseries "Jeff Williams departure" "value flow mapping" Haier and micro-enterprises 00:00 Intro + Check-In: What feature is really important in your living space? 03:27 The Pattern: Orgs trapped in a cycle of endless reorgs 05:15 The fastest, most visible sign of change a CEO can show to a board or investors 09:55 Structure work should always come last, but most people do it first 12:22 Reorgs to hit a number come at the expense of workflow, culture, and strategy 19:07 Stop changing the structure without touching the ways of working 22:19 Fundamental components of structure work 25:14 How The Ready approached it’s own reorg 26:34 Fallout of bad reorgs on your team and culture 31:17 Companies underestimate the stress of reorgs on individuals 34:40 Hot takes: org structure in the age of AI; legal OS around restructuring 38:15 Idea 1: Use reorgs to recalibrate roles back to defaults 39:42 Idea 2: Value flow map your company before considering a standard reorg 42:53 Idea 3: Test new structure in parts of phases, not everything all at once 44:30 Idea 4: Accept that some centralization is required 47:50 Wrap up: Leave us a review and share the show with your coworkers! Sound engineering and design by Taylor Marvin of ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Coupe Studios⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.