Claim OwnershipDifferent with Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe
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We’d like to introduce you to a new podcast. It’s called Different. But why different?
You know how when you’re wearing sunglasses it puts a tint on everything? Or if you wear glasses you see some things in focus and others out of focus?
Well, we all have lenses on the inside of our head too. And they tint, colour and shape everything we see, think and understand.
So, on this podcast Steve Chalke and Jill Rowe are going to dive headlong into just that as they discover a new ‘meaning making’ story and embrace a fresh way of thinking about life, the universe and everything in-between.
They will talk about getting to a place where we see our lives as part of something bigger than our day-to-day experience - becoming a part of an unfolding story. Finding joy in ordinary moments, facing failure and struggle and discovering liberation and purpose.
They’ll also discuss experiencing life as a gift and learning how to live on purpose. They’ll be peering into dark nights of the soul and finding hope. And simply learning how we are here to walk each home.
We hope you enjoy these conversations – discovering a new story and embracing new thinking.
This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood.
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about what happens when the computer says no and when process becomes their priority at the expense of their relationships with one another.Doing this can make us slow rather than helping us to be nimble, able to flex and, move forward to achieve vision and mission. So together they explore how vital it is that all process and regulation keeps the main thing.The main thing the preciousness of every person and their thriving and being willing to buck the system. When this has been forgotten, this feels like a timely conversation, rediscovering our sacred belonging to one another.It always matters. For this, we must be courageous.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about resilience. They uncover that resilience can be good and bad and can take many forms. So what ultimately matters are the values and beliefs that our resilience is rooted in.Ultimately, they can't discuss resilience without talking about our motives that are driving us, they think through what our resilience will look like if it's founded on loving God and loving others as ourselves.And in the desire to serve and to give, they recognise that this kind of resilience doesn't just happen, we build it over time through leaning into the struggle and complexity of life.This was such an energising and joyous conversation.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about how to become a person who is trusted by others. Trust takes a long time and it's all built on the foundation of good relationship.They explore how trust is like money in the bank that we accrue and can spend. And most significantly, they recognise that becoming a trustworthy person means means being authentic, doing what we say we will do, being rooted and motivated by values centred on love and goodness and never self interest.Trust is sacred and needs to be handled accordingly. The purpose of trust is to see goodness come in the world.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about beginning a new year. Instead of resolutions, they think about setting goals, about what they will do and how they will be.They explore how vital intention is and how they can enjoy the gift of each day so that they live life so well, with depth and faith and hope and love. So this day, how might they use it? How will they be intentional? As we approach the new year together, let's embrace the teacher that disruption is helping us to grow in who we are and what we do so that we can together bring more love to the world.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about thought traps, about getting stuck in a loop of thinking we just can't get out of. They talk about when we get caught in a survival mindset and how it triggers our anger, frustration and fear.And they discuss how the best chance we have is to connect and take care of one another. Hope is not found in fight and division doesn't empower us. We need proximity and to create collaboration, learning to sit with one another and listen.This is the way of compassion. It is the way of hope. Crossing the room to love our neighbours.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about why developing inner core strength and refusing to take shortcuts matters so much. They discuss steadiness, balance and resilience and how these come about through hard work and practise exercising the spiritual and emotional muscles needed to thrive.It's tempting to take shortcuts, but stepping out of our comfort zone, we see that strength and learning is all formed through pain and screw ups, joy and success, suffering and challenge. These are all of life for all of us.Our job is to embrace it all and we get to do this roller coaster life with one another. What a gift that is.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about the importance of rites of passage, how marking moments helps us to navigate life and to thrive. We consider how the absence of such markers can leave us adrift, susceptible and without a sense of true north.And we miss the beautiful invitation to an ongoing journey of growth. We see the value of developing practises and rituals that bring us together across groups and divides, holding us steady, and, as a result, able to build stronger communities where everyone is included.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about how we can create beauty out of brokenness. Together, they explore the philosophy held within the art of kintsugi.And they recognise that we can often live life pursuing perfection, desperate for a life without scars. And we can have an insatiable appetite for both being and looking perfect. Yet by changing our way of seeing and believing and having the courage and humility to learn through and from our scars and broken parts, we can be transformed, making us better. Not bitter. This is a precious episode. We pray it helps you to keep on your journey of growth and goodness.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about the power of trust and the need for honesty. They begin, though, with love and discuss how this is the foundation to it all.They chat about the importance of intent and motivation when honesty is at play and genuinely wanting the best for others. We owe it to people to be honest with them. Whether it's at work, home.Marriage, relationships, friendships, honesty and trust really matter. They talk about the Stockdale Paradox and see that it is through being honest that we are able to become our better selves and grow trust, too.We pray this episode is helpful to you.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about learning. We discuss how learning needs to be deep and goes far beyond just remembering facts. We all need to grow wisdom, too.We talk about the richness of neurodiversity rather than neuroformity. And we see the wonder and necessity of the invitation to all of us to go deeper and deeper in our learning for the sake of both ourselves and the world around us.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about the importance of waging peace and not war. For that to happen, we all need to see the vital importance of really listening to others. We simply have to listen and we recognise that, in truth, we only win when we all win, we can learn to not let anger get hold of and grip us, and as the brilliant Desmond Tutu said, if we want peace, we have to talk to our enemies, not just our friends. In fact, we are invited to love our enemies. This episode feels so important for right now, we hope that you will join us in waging peace.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke all about the wonder of ambiguity, starting from observing a Spanish Town Square in a power cut, all the way to how we can develop the ability to find our way in the dark when we aren't feeling sure at all. So much of life is navigated in ambiguity. So together, we chat about how we can grow to not despise it, but welcome it and see it all as a creative invitation. We realize once more, the anchor of vision and see the truth that we don't need to know everything to take the next step. We just need to know enough and we also need enough foolishness to believe that we can do what needs to be done.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this second part of 'Beyond the Barricades', Jill Rowe talks with Steve Chalke about standing with courage in the face of fear as we speak and stand up for justice, compassion, and inclusion.Together, we explore how power can be so enticing for all of us. And we remind ourselves that we must speak out even when our voice is shaken, shaking, and even when we think we might lose it all.Responding to the invitation to embrace fear as we seek to live love out loud. In the end, we see that courage is a muscle we can always strengthen. Acting justly, loving mercy and walking humbly.This is the path we are invited to take, and this is how we will all find our voice.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk about not waiting for the cavalry, but instead realising we are the ones we've been waiting for.We explore how change comes from a dedicated small band of people who stand up and work for a world they can see beyond the barricades. We think through why we believe everyone else is responsible rather than us, which is actually a huge deception.And we recognise that we all have agency and there always exists the invitation to participate in creating change. We hope this episode gives you the courage to shift, move and pivot so that we can all, all move beyond the barricades together.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about distress, eustress and de-stress. This episode is all about pressure. We discuss how it shows up in our bodies, its physiological impact.We think about what we can do when it feels like it is all becoming too much. We even talk about tears. We reflect on the story and power of wilderness and how the pressure of a wilderness can be an invitation that can mould and shape us into the very kind of people we long to be more compassionate, more present, more humble.We pray that this episode helps you as you navigate pressure and the crucible that life can be.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke talk all about blame. We can all jump to blame so easily, and we find it hard to take responsibility when we've done something wrong and say sorry.Blame is a shortcut. In this episode, we pay attention to the power of self reflection, self awareness, self compassion, and the decision of forgiveness. This was a super honest and, we hope, helpful conversation.There's plenty of joy in this one too.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about our response to the TV series 'Adolescence'. We discuss how all young people spell love T-I-M-E.It's the most precious commodity we can ever give to a child. Along with our presence, we see that understanding what is happening physiologically in a young person helps us to know more full fully what and how we need to be in their orbit.And we see that being involved and engaged with them through our time and our presence builds a protective layer. It's not a magic formula, but it gives a much stronger foundation. From simple ideas to important insights.This conversation was so rich. We pray it helps you as you navigate all the wonder and complexity of life together.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about Oasis being 40 years old. It was so much fun looking back over those 40 years together. So many people, so much learning and so much joy. What we discover through all of it is the value of having purpose and meaning and the belief that your life counts and that the way of Jesus is summed up in loving others as we love ourselves so that no one is left out.Celebrating people, supporting people, speaking up and speaking out. Compassion, inclusion, love. That is our task, our responsibility, and our joy at Oasis. Here's to the next 40.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
In this episode of the Different podcast, Jill Rowe and Steve Chalke about the reality of inclusion. This conversation is a big one, and so timely. We talk about the power of loving our enemies and how it's us who's transformed when we do that, when it is easy to blame and other others, when we explore the better way and what it looks like to live in the reality of truly belonging to each other.We hope this helps you dive deeper and build inclusion.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
There is a lot going on in life at the moment, both generally and in politics and globally. All of this can feel overwhelming and heavy. My name's Jill Rowe, and in this episode of the Different podcast, I talk with Steve Chalke about how we can not just make sense of things, but how we can also find our way through and be people who keep moving forward. We explore the ideas of perspective and choice and community and faith and opting always to do good. And we see how all these things can stabilise us.We can use our agency and power to do the better thing, always.Our title music is written and performed by Jerome Alexander (Message to Bears).This podcast is powered by Oasis. Edited and mixed by Matteo Magariello. Produced by Peter Kerwood. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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