SaaS Metrics School

In episode #346 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray breaks down the most common mistakes SaaS and AI companies make when disclosing their ARR (Annual Recurring Revenue). Building on the prior episode about the five questions every ARR definition must answer, this discussion focuses on where ARR disclosures go wrong—and why unclear definitions can damage credibility with investors, boards, and acquirers. Drawing from extensive research on public tech company filings and press releases, Ben explains how vague ARR definitions, hidden mechanics, and inconsistent methodologies create confusion and risk during fundraising, valuation discussions, and due diligence. Resources Mentioned Prior episode: The 5 Questions Your ARR Definition Must Answer SaaS Metrics Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation Blog post on ARR: https://www.thesaascfo.com/cfos-guide-to-disclosing-headline-arr-number What You’ll Learn Why a company’s pricing model does not always match its ARR model The importance of clearly defining which revenue streams are included in ARR Common issues with vague annualization periods (monthly vs. quarterly vs. trailing periods) How poor disclosure of usage-based or variable revenue creates misleading ARR numbers Why ARR definition changes and restatements require clear explanation and transparency Why It Matters Clear ARR disclosure builds trust with investors, boards, and business leaders Poorly defined ARR can undermine company valuation and fundraising conversations Inconsistent ARR definitions make benchmarking and financial modeling unreliable Transparent ARR mechanics reduce follow-up questions during due diligence Strong financial strategy starts with defensible, repeatable revenue metrics  

Defining ARR is getting harder—not easier—as SaaS, AI, usage-based pricing, and hybrid business models evolve. In episode #345 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray breaks down the five critical questions every ARR definition must answer to hold up with Boards, investors, and during due diligence. Drawing on extensive research into how public tech companies disclose ARR in press releases and SEC filings, Ben explains why ARR is not “dead” but why vague or inconsistent ARR definitions undermine credibility, comparability, and company valuation. This episode provides a practical framework to help SaaS leaders, CFOs, and founders clearly define ARR in a way that supports accurate metrics, financial modeling, and investor trust. Resources Mentioned Blog post on ARR definitions and disclosure best practices: https://www.thesaascfo.com/cfos-guide-to-disclosing-headline-arr-numbers/ Ben's SaaS Metrics training: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation You’ll Learn The five questions every ARR definition must answer to be investor-ready Which revenue types belong in ARR—and which should be excluded The difference between revenue-based, contract-based, and hybrid ARR calculations How public SaaS and AI companies annualize subscription and usage-based revenue Common approaches for handling variable, consumption, and usage revenue in ARR Why vague ARR definitions create confusion in fundraising and due diligence Why It Matters Clear ARR definitions improve credibility with investors and business leaders Poorly defined ARR can negatively impact company valuation Consistent ARR logic enables better KPI tracking and benchmarking Transparent ARR disclosures reduce friction during fundraising and M&A Accurate ARR supports stronger financial strategy and forecasting Well-defined revenue categories improve accounting and financial systems  

In episode #344 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray shares insights from his research into how public tech companies define and disclose ARR in press releases and SEC filings. By analyzing U.S. and global public companies, Ben identifies common ARR “buckets” and explains how different revenue models influence what gets included in ARR. Rather than debating whether ARR is “dead,” this episode focuses on how companies are actually reporting ARR today—and what private SaaS and AI companies can learn from those disclosures. Resources Mentioned Subscribe to Ben’s SaaS newsletter: https://mailchi.mp/df1db6bf8bca/the-saas-cfo-sign-up-landing-pageVerint (example of detailed SaaS and AI ARR disclosures): https://www.thesaascfo.com/ai-arr-vs-saas-arr-how-to-define-and-calculate/ What You’ll Learn The most common ARR buckets used by public SaaS and tech companies How pure subscription revenue is typically defined in ARR How companies handle variable revenue such as usage, transactions, and overages When managed services revenue is included in ARR—and when it isn’t Why purely usage-based companies rarely report ARR How revenue models and pricing structures shape ARR definitions What ARR disclosures signal to investors and the public markets Why It Matters ARR definitions directly impact how investors interpret growth Clear ARR buckets improve transparency and credibility Mixed revenue models require thoughtful ARR construction Public company disclosures set expectations for private companies Poor ARR definitions can confuse metrics, forecasting, and valuation Understanding ARR structure helps align finance, accounting, and reporting  

In episode #343 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray demystifies SaaS revenue by breaking down the core revenue types that software, SaaS, and AI companies should be modeling on their P&L. Rather than focusing on labels, Ben explains why pricing models and revenue streams are the real drivers of financial clarity. He walks through the most common revenue categories—subscriptions, variable usage-based revenue, professional services, managed services, hardware, and other emerging models—and shows how proper revenue segmentation becomes the foundation for accurate retention metrics, forecasting, unit economics, and due diligence readiness. Resources Mentioned SaaS Metrics School framework: https://www.thesaascfo.com/scaling-with-confidence-the-ultimate-saas-metrics-playbook/ Concepts covered in Ben’s SaaS Metrics course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation MRR schedules & MRR waterfalls: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/rJhZ6VdM/checkout  What You’ll Learn The core revenue categories every SaaS, software, and AI company should track How subscription and usage-based revenue differ financially Why overages must be separated from subscription revenue How revenue segmentation enables accurate MRR schedules and waterfalls Why retention should be calculated separately by revenue stream How revenue structure impacts forecasting accuracy How different revenue streams change CAC payback and LTV to CAC calculations Why clean revenue categorization simplifies due diligence Why It Matters Revenue segmentation is the foundation of accurate SaaS metrics MRR schedules and retention calculations depend on clean revenue data Forecasts are more reliable when built from revenue waterfalls Mixed revenue streams require adjusted CAC payback calculations Clear revenue structure improves investor and acquirer confidence Proper setup reduces friction during fundraising and exits  

In episode #342 of SaaS Metric School, Ben breaks down the Cost of ARR metric and explains why it’s one of the most practical and revealing go-to-market efficiency metrics for 2026 planning. He covers where the metric originated, how to calculate it correctly, and how to use it to sanity-check forecasts and budgets. Ben walks through the three variations of Cost of ARR (blended, new, and expansion), explains why bookings data—not revenue—is required, and shows how benchmarking by ACV provides far more insight than aggregate benchmarks. Resources Mentioned Benchmarkit.ai for SaaS metrics benchmarks Cost of ARR framework: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-cac-ratio/ SaaS Metrics Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation What You’ll Learn What the Cost of ARR metric is and why it matters for SaaS and AI companies The difference between blended, new, and expansion Cost of ARR Why Cost of ARR must be based on bookings, not revenue How improper CAC allocation distorts Cost of ARR results How to use Cost of ARR to validate 2026 forecasts and budgets Why benchmarking by ACV size is more accurate than company size What top-quartile Cost of ARR performance looks like across ACV ranges Why It Matters Cost of ARR quickly exposes unrealistic bookings forecasts It connects sales and marketing spend directly to ARR outcomes The metric helps right-size go-to-market investment for 2026 ACV-based benchmarks prevent misleading efficiency comparisons Tracking trends over time highlights improving or degrading efficiency Cost of ARR works across PLG, sales-led, SaaS, and AI models  

In episode #341 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben Murray explains why revenue per FTE is a misleading metric for modern SaaS and AI companies and introduces the ROSE metric (Return on SaaS Employees) as a more accurate way to measure durable scaling. Ben walks through how ROSE removes labor-cost bias, incorporates contractors and Agentic AI spend, and directly connects people investment to recurring revenue generation. He also shares practical benchmark ranges and explains how founders and finance teams should use ROSE when budgeting and forecasting for 2026. Resources Mentioned ROSE Metric Template: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-rose-metric/ ROSE Metric Bootcamp: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/offers/rJhZ6VdM What You’ll Learn Why revenue per FTE breaks down in global and AI-driven teams How the ROSE metric improves capital allocation decisions What costs should be included in ROSE ROSE benchmark ranges and how they map to profitability and cash burn How to interpret ROSE differently based on growth stage and company goals How to forecast ROSE using trailing and forward-looking time periods Why It Matters People and AI spend are the largest investments on a SaaS or AI P&L ROSE removes wage and geography bias from efficiency analysis The metric directly ties recurring revenue to capital deployed ROSE highlights whether headcount and AI investment are creating leverage Improving ROSE over time is critical for durable, profitable scaling Boards and investors care about efficiency trends, not just growth rates  

In episode #340 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben breaks down what rising CFO confidence—now at a four-year high—means for SaaS and AI operators planning for the year ahead. Using insights from Deloitte’s latest CFO survey, Ben explains why optimism alone isn’t enough and why companies must pair confidence with strong financial systems, accurate forecasting, and reliable metrics. The conversation centers on how leaders should prepare for potential market upturns while still balancing growth, efficiency, and risk, especially in a fast-moving AI-driven environment. What You’ll Learn Key takeaways from Deloitte’s CFO confidence survey How CFO sentiment impacts budgeting, forecasting, and financial strategy Why cost management and productivity remain top priorities despite rising confidence The four critical SaaS finance data sources needed for reliable forecasting Why weak financial foundations limit decision-making and execution speed How proper revenue, bookings, and MRR data support long-term planning Why It Matters Higher confidence increases pressure to make faster, higher-stakes decisions Accurate financial modeling depends on clean accounting and revenue data Reliable MRR and bookings data enable realistic growth and ARR forecasts Strong financial systems help leaders respond quickly to market shifts Investors and boards expect disciplined planning, not optimism-driven projections SaaS and AI companies without solid data foundations struggle to scale efficiently Resources Mentioned Deloitte CFO Confidence Survey (via Ben’s newsletter): https://mailchi.mp/cd86087f90ac/cfo-confidence-at-highest-level-in-4-years SaaS Metrics Course at The SaaS Academy: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #339 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben explains how change of control provisions in customer contracts can quietly derail due diligence, fundraising, or a future company exit. Drawing from real-world CFO experience and a recent webinar with a SaaS-focused tech attorney, Ben breaks down why seemingly standard legal language can introduce major risk into a SaaS company’s recurring revenue profile. Ben highlights how buyers and investors scrutinize customer contracts during due diligence—and why poorly structured MSAs can threaten valuation, increase churn risk, or even kill a deal outright. What You’ll Learn What a change of control provision is and why it matters How customer contracts are reviewed during SaaS due diligence Why change of control clauses can open the door to customer churn after an acquisition How procurement teams and customer legal teams typically push for these provisions When to push back, escalate, or seek alternative contract language Why contract structure is part of strong SaaS financial and operational readiness Why It Matters Customer contracts directly impact company valuation during an exit or fundraise Change of control provisions can trigger immediate churn risk post-acquisition Buyers want confidence in the durability of recurring revenue Poor legal hygiene can delay, discount, or kill a transaction Proactive contract review reduces future due diligence friction Strong back-office processes support long-term financial strategy and investor trust Resources Mentioned Webinar replay with Omid (tech attorney) on legal readiness for SaaS exits: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/pl/2148384654 SaaS Metrics course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #338 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben explains how to quickly sanity-check your sales and marketing forecast for the upcoming year using one high-signal SaaS metric: the Cost of ARR. As founders and CFOs finalize budgets, Ben shows how mismatches between projected bookings and planned go-to-market spend can reveal unrealistic assumptions before they turn into missed targets. Using simple examples, Ben walks through how the Cost of ARR connects sales and marketing spend, net new ARR bookings, and historical performance—making it one of the most effective tools for validating SaaS and AI company forecasts during budget season. What You’ll Learn How to use the Cost of ARR to validate your sales and marketing budget The relationship between sales and marketing spend and net new ARR bookings How to identify unrealistic growth assumptions in your forecast The difference between blended the Cost of ARR, Cost of New ARR, and Cost of Expansion ARR Why historical performance should anchor forward-looking forecasts How benchmarking by ACV and sales motion improves forecast accuracy Why It Matters Sales and marketing forecasts often fail because spend and bookings assumptions are disconnected Cost of ARR provides a mechanical reality check before committing to a budget Overly aggressive ARR targets can be identified early and corrected Underspending on go-to-market becomes visible when bookings expectations are too conservative Benchmarking against peers helps validate whether forecast assumptions are realistic Strong financial modeling and forecasting discipline improves board and investor confidence Resources Mentioned Cost of ARR metric framework: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-cac-ratio/ Benchmarking data from Ray Rike at Benchmarkit.ai Concepts from SaaS FP&A forecasting and go-to-market efficiency analysis: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #337 of SaaS Metrics School, Ben breaks down why software revenue categorization is a foundational requirement for strong finance, accounting, and SaaS metrics. He explains the core revenue types every SaaS, AI, or software company should separate on their P&L—and why commingling revenue creates downstream issues in MRR tracking, retention metrics, forecasting, and company valuation. Ben walks through the major recurring and non-recurring revenue categories, then shows how clean revenue segmentation enables accurate MRR schedules, retention analysis, cash flow forecasting, and smoother due diligence with investors and acquirers. What You’ll Learn The core revenue categories every SaaS or AI company should clearly define The difference between subscription, usage, overage, services, managed services, and hardware revenue Why overages must be separated at both the SKU and general ledger level How revenue categorization feeds directly into MRR schedules and waterfalls Why recurring and variable revenue must be forecasted differently How clean revenue data improves retention metrics and go-to-market efficiency analysis Why investors and acquirers expect revenue clarity during fundraising and due diligence Why It Matters Accurate MRR and ARR tracking depends on clearly defined revenue streams Retention metrics (GRR and NRR) break when revenue types are mixed together Revenue forecasting and financial modeling require different assumptions by revenue type Cash flow forecasting becomes unreliable without segmented recurring revenue data Company valuation is directly impacted by the perceived quality of recurring revenue Investors and acquirers expect detailed revenue schedules during fundraising and due diligence Strong financial systems and accounting discipline reduce friction in audits and exits Resources Mentioned Ben’s SaaS revenue hierarchy framework: https://www.thesaascfo.com/the-saas-revenue-hierarchy-why-defining-your-revenue-streams-matter/ SaaS Metrics course at The SaaS Academy: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #336, Ben Murray breaks down his top three go-to-market efficiency metrics that every SaaS and AI operator should master. He explains when each metric becomes meaningful, how they differ across go-to-market motions, why ACV-based benchmarking matters, and how these metrics become forward-looking tools through forecasting. Ben also highlights the importance of having fully burdened sales and marketing expenses in place so these efficiency metrics are accurate and defensible. What You’ll Learn The three most important go-to-market efficiency metrics and why they matter How ACV—not ARR—should drive your benchmarking Why these metrics are proactive when used in forecasting, not just historical How revenue types (subscription vs. usage vs. platform/overage) influence metric design The foundational role of fully burdened sales and marketing expenses Why It Matters Enables operators to measure the true efficiency of sales and marketing investments Provides clarity on the health and scalability of the go-to-market motion Helps leadership benchmark realistically against peers using ACV-based expectations Allows finance teams to forecast forward-looking efficiency, not just track history Ensures efficiency metrics remain accurate as product pricing and revenue models evolve Prevents major errors caused by incomplete or misallocated CAC inputs Resources Mentioned Ben’s SaaS Metrics Framework (Pillar 5: Go-to-Market Efficiency): https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation Ray Rike's benchmarking data at benchmarkit.ai Blog posts on modifying metrics for subscription + usage revenue models: https://www.thesaascfo.com/how-to-calculate-cac-payback-period-with-variable-revenue/

In episode #335, Ben answers a common operator question: Should Customer Success be included in the cost of customer acquisition (CAC)? He explains how Customer Success should be coded based on responsibilities, when it belongs in COGS vs. Sales, and when CS expenses should be included in expansion efficiency metrics. What You’ll Learn Why CAC applies only to acquiring new customers. How Customer Success roles differ between adoption, retention, renewals, and expansion. When Customer Success expenses should be included in the cost of expansion ARR. How to allocate Sales, Marketing, and CS expenses between new and existing revenue. Why proper allocation is foundational for CAC payback, LTV to CAC, and Cost of ARR. Why It Matters Prevents inflated or misleading CAC and go-to-market efficiency metrics. Ensures expansion ARR economics are calculated accurately. Helps leaders understand the true cost structure behind revenue growth. Supports cleaner financial models, better forecasting, and stronger investor discussions. Aligns internal teams (CS, Sales, Finance) on roles and financial impact. Resources Mentioned SaaS Metrics course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #334, Ben Murray breaks down how leading public SaaS and tech companies are reporting AI-driven value creation across their earnings calls. After analyzing more than 130 public tech earnings transcripts, Ben identifies five consistent themes in how incumbents communicate AI monetization, margin impact, revenue growth, and operational transformation to Wall Street. These insights are critical for private SaaS and AI founders who want to understand how to position their own AI value story for Boards, investors, and future fundraising. As AI moves beyond the hype cycle, companies must clearly demonstrate monetization, adoption, and financial impact—not just vision and roadmap. Why It Matters Understanding how public companies frame AI value creation helps private founders avoid vague positioning and instead adopt investor-grade communication. These themes influence: Board reporting Fundraising narratives ARR and revenue forecasting Financial modeling Unit economics and cost structure decisions Long-term valuation strategy As AI transitions from hype to monetization to full transformation, founders must adapt how they report AI’s contribution to performance and financial outcomes. Resources Mentioned: Reporting AI ARR: https://www.thesaascfo.com/ai-arr-vs-saas-arr-how-to-define-and-calculate/ SaaS Metrics Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #333, Ben answers a foundational SaaS metrics question: Should expansion revenue be included in your Lifetime Value (LTV) calculation? Ben walks through the correct LTV formula and highlights how misalignment between LTV and CAC can distort your LTV:CAC ratio. He also covers when expansion should be included. The episode provides a practical framework for SaaS founders, CFOs, and operators to ensure they calculate LTV accurately, compare it properly to CAC, and model unit economics using consistent, reliable inputs. Key Topics Covered The correct LTV formula using average new-customer MRR × subscription gross margin Why the churn input should align with dollar-based metrics using 1 – Gross Revenue Retention (GRR) Why expansion revenue is deliberately excluded from LTV in most SaaS models How including expansion artificially inflates the LTV:CAC ratio The cost mismatch between acquiring new customers (CAC) and generating expansion revenue When PLG motions justify including limited, time-bound expansion revenue in LTV How organic upgrades differ from sales-assisted expansion How SaaS+ businesses must adjust their LTV formula to account for usage revenue The role of gross margin in determining true unit economics The importance of aligning metric definitions when evaluating customer profitability Why This Matters This episode is essential for: SaaS founders calculating LTV for budgeting, pricing, and forecasting CFOs, controllers, and FP&A leaders managing unit economics and CAC payback Finance teams modelling customer profitability and revenue expansion Operators working in PLG environments assessing organic expansion patterns Investors reviewing LTV:CAC ratios in diligence and portfolio monitoring Anyone building SaaS Plus (subscription + usage) revenue models Resources Mentioned Ben’s deep dive on SaaS+ LTV: https://www.thesaascfo.com/how-to-calculate-ltv-with-variable-revenue/ SaaS Metrics course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #332, Ben Murray explains why AI companies with high inference costs and lower gross profit margins must scale dramatically faster—up to 6x larger—to match the financial performance of a comparable SaaS business. Using simple financial modeling and the core principles of SaaS economics, Ben breaks down how AI margins, variable COGS, and TAM expansion interact to shape the financial trajectory of AI-native companies. This episode builds on a recent blog post and downloadable Excel model, both linked in the show notes. Key Topics Covered Why SaaS metrics still apply to AI companies, but with different economic inputs The impact of AI inference costs on gross margin and scalability Comparing a SaaS company at 80 percent gross margin vs. an AI company at 55 percent Why an AI company needs 6x the revenue to generate the same EBITDA How lower gross profit changes cash flow, EBITDA, and company valuation Why larger TAM and higher ACV potential in AI may offset lower margins How attacking labor budgets expands revenue opportunity for AI products The myth that SaaS metrics are “broken” for AI companies Understanding how COGS scale in SaaS vs. AI and why the math still works Evaluating OPEX profiles when modeling scale scenarios How to use the downloadable template to test scenarios for your own AI or SaaS business Why This Matters This episode is critical for: AI founders modeling their unit economics SaaS founders embedding AI and needing to understand margin changes CFOs, controllers, FP&A leaders, and finance teams navigating AI cost structures Investors assessing the scalability and valuation profile of AI companies Operators planning cash runway, revenue forecasts, and growth investment Understanding these financial dynamics early ensures you can forecast accurately, raise capital more effectively, and prepare for due diligence with confidence. Resources Mentioned Full blog post on AI vs. SaaS economics: https://www.thesaascfo.com/the-real-economics-of-saas-versus-ai-companies/ SaaS Metrics Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #331, Ben breaks down the true financial and economic differences between a SaaS company and an AI company. Inspired by a tweet claiming that “SaaS metrics are broken” and that AI companies generate more absolute profit per customer, Ben puts the theory to the test using real financial modeling. This episode walks through detailed revenue, gross margin, EBITDA, pricing power, TAM dynamics, and unit economics scenarios to determine whether AI companies actually outperform SaaS businesses. What This Episode Covers Why investors are questioning traditional SaaS metrics when evaluating AI companies The importance of recurring revenue fundamentals, whether the company is SaaS or AI A side-by-side comparison of a $1M SaaS company versus a $1M AI company Gross margin profiles: 80 percent SaaS vs. 55 percent AI How EBITDA changes when OpEx is held constant The revenue scale required for an AI company to match SaaS gross profit The revenue scale required for an AI company to match SaaS EBITDA Why AI companies need a TAM that is 6x larger How pricing power tied to labor displacement can shift AI unit economics Modeling ARPA increases to see when AI gross profit matches SaaS Why the underlying P&L structure does not change, but the inputs do How founders should think about forecasting and financial strategy when building AI-native products Why This Matters Founders embedding AI into SaaS products AI-native startups modeling their financial future CFOs and FP&A leaders forecasting revenue, cash, and margins Investors evaluating early-stage AI companies Operators building long-term company valuation strategies Ben emphasizes that the P&L, revenue streams, cost structure, and core KPI’s still apply. What changes are the inputs—gross margin profile, pricing power, TAM, ACV, and scalability assumptions. Resources Mentioned Full blog post with financial modeling examples: https://www.thesaascfo.com/the-real-economics-of-saas-versus-ai-companies SaaS metrics course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation

In episode #330, Ben explains one of the most common and costly SaaS finance mistakes: failing to allocate CAC between new and existing customers. This oversight leads to misleading KPI’s, inaccurate CAC payback, flawed LTV to CAC ratios, and unreliable unit economics. Ben walks through exactly how to allocate CAC the right way, how to segment sales and marketing expenses, and why this matters for accurate revenue efficiency metrics and due diligence. Key Topics Covered Why fully burdened sales and marketing expenses are required for accurate CAC The danger of pushing all sales and marketing expenses into CAC without allocation How to allocate CAC between new customer acquisition and expansion How to segment sales teams (hunters vs. farmers) and avoid co-mingled headcount Allocating marketing spend based on acquisition channels Typical allocation benchmarks for sales (60-80% to new) and marketing (80-90% to new) Why accurate CAC is essential for CAC payback, LTV to CAC, and cost of ARR How the Cost of ARR provides a blended benchmark without requiring allocation Using allocation methods for businesses with multiple product lines or motions What You’ll Learn How to correctly calculate CAC using fully burdened sales and marketing expenses How to evaluate marketing economics and sales efficiency with proper allocation Why unallocated CAC leads to distorted financial strategy and misleading KPI’s How CAC allocation flows into CAC payback period, LTV to CAC, and ARR efficiency How to build a repeatable, defensible go-to-market metrics framework that withstands due diligence   Who This Episode Is For SaaS founders scaling beyond early customer acquisition CFOs, FP&A leaders, and finance teams who own KPI modeling Operators who need accurate CAC, CAC payback, and LTV calculations Investors or advisors assessing revenue efficiency and go-to-market economics Related Resources SaaS Metrics Foundation course covering CAC, LTV, ARR, and unit economics: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation Coaching resources on building an accurate, SaaS-specific chart of accounts: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/saas-cfo-coaching

In episode #329, Ben Murray, The SaaS CFO, breaks down the growing debate around SaaS economics versus AI economics. A recent post claimed that “SaaS metrics are broken” and that traditional KPIs no longer apply to AI companies. Ben challenges this idea and walks through why recurring revenue metrics still matter, how revenue models differ across SaaS and AI, and what CFOs need to understand about gross margin, unit economics, and total addressable market. Key Topics Covered Why claims that SaaS metrics are “broken” are inaccurate The difference between SaaS economics and AI economics Why recurring revenue metrics still apply to AI companies How subscription versus usage revenue impacts KPI calculation Gross margin expectations for SaaS vs. AI companies Whether AI companies truly generate more profit per customer The role of absolute profit versus per-customer economics How AI may expand TAM by targeting labor budgets, not just software budgets How Agentic AI affects financial modeling and cost structures Using ROSE (Return on Software Employees) to evaluate AI-driven ROI What You’ll Learn Why SaaS metrics still matter for both SaaS and AI companies How CFOs should evaluate margins, ARR, and revenue quality in AI models The difference between rate-based economics (ARPA, ACV) and volume-based economics (absolute profit) How to think about financial strategy when transitioning from a pure SaaS model to an AI-embedded product model How to assess realistic AI unit economics instead of relying on hype   Who This Episode Is For SaaS CFOs and finance leaders evaluating AI investments Founders embedding AI into their product and adjusting their financial models Operators who want a grounded understanding of real AI economics Investors assessing how AI shifts revenue models and margins Related Resources Ben’s upcoming deep-dive blog post on SaaS vs. AI economics: TheSaaSCFO.com SaaS Metrics Foundation course for mastering KPI’s, ARR, MRR, and unit economics: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation ROSE metric framework for analyzing AI-driven productivity and financial systems: https://www.thesaascfo.com/saas-rose-metric/

At what point should a founder stop running finance and accounting and hand the numbers to an expert? In episode #328, Ben Murray walks through the inflection points when SaaS founders should consider hiring a bookkeeper and/or fractional CFO to protect data accuracy, improve forecasting, and strengthen company valuation. You’ll learn the warning signs that your financial systems and reporting are holding back growth—and how to build a finance function that scales with your business. What You’ll Learn When to hire help by ARR stage Monthly close discipline: Why closing your books every month—accurately—is critical for investor trust. Accrual vs. cash accounting: How switching methods reveals true business performance. COGS clarity: Setting up a SaaS P&L that separates revenue streams, COGS, and OPEX for real gross-margin insight. Retention readiness: Why your MRR schedule (revenue by customer by month) is worth its weight in gold. Cash-flow forecasting: How to move beyond the bank-balance mentality to proactive cash planning. Investor presentation: Ensuring your metrics, slide deck, and financial statements tie together cleanly. Why It Matters For Founders: Delegating finance isn’t failure—it’s a strategic step toward sustainable scaling and higher valuation. For CFOs and Advisors: Knowing these trigger points helps you coach founders on financial readiness. For Investors: A disciplined monthly close and clean P&L build confidence in revenue quality and forecasting accuracy. Key Takeaways Growth dictates urgency: the faster you scale, the earlier you need finance expertise. A bookkeeper should close the books by mid-month to avoid costly cleanup later. Move to accrual accounting to show economic performance and support fundraising. Create an accurate MRR schedule to prove retention and ARR health to investors. Build a basic forecast to manage cash runway and hiring decisions with confidence. Resources Mentioned SaaS Metrics Foundation Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation Finance 101 for Founders: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/finance-101-for-saas-founders Quote from Ben “Just like I couldn’t go in and code your product, most founders can’t scale as CFO. At some point, finance needs a specialist so the business can keep growing on solid data.”

Your gross margin might not be telling the truth. In episode #327, Ben Murray exposes the seven “dirty secrets” that distort SaaS gross margins — from incorrect COGS coding to missing allocations for shared resources and misclassified expenses. Whether you’re a CFO, finance lead, or operator, you’ll learn how to clean up your P&L and get accurate unit economics that reflect your true performance and valuation. What You’ll Learn The 7 big offenders that make SaaS gross margins misleading. How to correctly code payment processing fees (Stripe, ACH, wire) under DevOps in COGS. The difference between internal-use software and third-party apps embedded in your product. How to classify customer success — adoption-focused vs. account management. Why demo and test environments must be allocated properly between departments. How to ensure fully burdened expenses (wages, taxes, benefits, bonuses) are coded correctly. The impact of co-mingled headcount on margins by revenue stream. Why department leaders belong in the departments they manage. Why It Matters For Founders: Clean accounting drives higher (or preserved) company valuation and investor confidence. For Finance Teams: Accurate COGS and gross profit ensure your SaaS metrics are reliable. For Operators: Clear expense allocation helps identify efficiency opportunities in support, services, and DevOps. For Investors: Properly structured financial systems and accounting practices make due diligence faster and cleaner. Key Takeaways Misclassified expenses can make your gross margin appear stronger or weaker than it really is. Always differentiate between OpEx and COGS — the foundation of credible financial modeling. Track margins by revenue stream (subscription, usage, services) for true business insight. Ensure your P&L reflects fully burdened costs per department — including contractors. Clean financial data = higher trust from investors and buyers. Resources Mentioned SaaS Metrics Foundation Course: https://www.thesaasacademy.com/the-saas-metrics-foundation   Quote from Ben “Your P&L doesn’t lie — but bad coding does. If your COGS and OpEx aren’t clean, your gross margin isn’t either.”