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Author: Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin
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Are you crone curious? Are you an older, wise woman with bewilderingly accurate intuition? Revel in the wisdom, experience and intuition older women offer the world. Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin explore the gifts and challenges of being in the second half (third trimester?) of life.
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Lisa and Trudy are joined by prolific author Merilyn Simonds to chat about the benefits of inter-generational friendship, the creative process and why women are so much more than the roles they play.Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode–Walking with Beth: Conversations with My Hundred-Year-Old Friend by Merilyn Simonds Woman, Watching: Louise de Kiriline Lawrence and the Songbirds of Pimisi Bay by Merilyn Simonds(00:55) - Introducing Merilyn Simonds and Beth Robinson
(06:47) - I want that woman as my friend
(11:03) - Boundaries
(19:40) - The writing process
(24:11) - Broadening the scope of who you are
(32:06) - Friendships as we age
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Lisa and Trudy are joined by Trisha Estabrooks, a communicator, advocate and former school trustee and journalist, for a conversation about the moments on the precipice in life. When there’s a fork in the road, which way do you go? Trisha shares her wisdom from successes and failures, and the challenges of being a woman in politics. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode–“Ain’t Life a Brook” by Ferron(01:11) - Introducing Trisha Estabrooks
(09:03) - Where does courage come from?
(17:42) - Time for reinvention
(23:23) - The path will reveal itself
(30:52) - The next reinvention
(35:35) - Letting go
(41:53) - On the precipice
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
To celebrate their 40th episode, Trudy and Lisa are joined by “apprentice crone” Cody Dub to discuss entering the “second trimester” of life. What does it mean to be middle aged? Why is camaraderie between women so important? And how do women manage the squeeze of living in the “sandwich generation”? Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(01:30) - Welcome Cody Dub
(09:40) - Gut brain
(17:48) - What do you know you don’t know?
(29:04) - Un-wellness and women
(35:46) - You desire what’s in front of you
--From This Episode–The Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph CampbellRadical Acceptance, Radical Compassion by Tara BrachYou’re Wrong About podcast hosted by Sarah Marshall --Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
If I explore my growing edges, how will I have to change? Lisa and Trudy break down the self-limiting beliefs that can hold all of us back — and how important it is to get out of your own way and ask, “Who am I beyond the shape I’m in?”Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode--The Growing Edge by Howard Thurman (01:38) - The edge
(09:45) - It’s never too late for anything
(15:07) - Fixed vs learner’s mindset
(22:01) - How far are you from where you want to grow?
(22:27) - Motivated by fear or by love
(36:23) - Getting out of your own way
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Psychologist Janelle Drisner brings her unique perspective and sage wisdom to the conversation around loneliness. The cure to loneliness lies within — Janelle takes us to the root of our loneliness and how we can find the connection we crave.Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode--I and Thou by Martin BuberThe Hero with a Thousand Faces by Joseph CampbellRisk by Anaïs Nin--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Trudy and Lisa are joined by executive coach Diane Lloyd to discuss the perils, pleasures and promises of aging as a woman, how menopause impacts women professionally, and how women can step into their power and be visible in midlife. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode--On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to Be Good by Elise Loehnen(01:07) - Introducing our guest, Diane Lloyd
(06:18) - Happy accidents
(10:04) - Radical change
(17:53) - Life transitions and women’s resilience
(23:20) - Who am I now?
(29:13) - High functioning, resilient women need help too
(34:31) - Feminine energy’s value
(38:24) - The crone years
(43:08) - The courage to hold others accountable
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Trudy and Lisa discuss the lifelong process of becoming, and wisdom they’ve earned from their crone years. This wide-ranging conversation covers it all, from creating your path with intention, the courage to step outside your comfort zone and why you should try manifesting — even if you aren’t woowoo. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(01:02) - Connecting the dots
(06:23) - Being intentional about who you are
(12:01) - Am I limiting myself?
(19:21) - Rebuilding takes time
(23:51) - Manifesting what you want
(33:32) - I can’t dismiss magic
--From This Episode-- Outsider: An Old Man, a Mountain and the Search for a Hidden Past by Brett Popplewell--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Speaking up might earn you a name like “mouthy” or “bitch,” but is it really better to stay silent? Lisa and Trudy discuss the difference between a Karen and a crone, when to speak up and the wisdom one gains with age. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(01:01) - Coming in hot
(04:29) - Mouthy but not entitled
(09:03) - Speaking up
(12:53) - Fear of the Karen
(18:38) - Don’t make a scene
(25:46) - Aging out of people-pleasing
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
There’s a difference between being lonely and being alone. Trudy and Lisa explore the rich possibilities of living alone, approaching life with intention and finding unexpected joys in solo life.Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(01:17) - Flying solo
(07:06) - The fog
(11:23) - Practice being alone
(15:15) - Aloneness as opening
(19:40) - Choosing a path
(23:57) - Loving life as it is
(28:14) - Be intentional
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Lisa and Trudy reflect on the women who have shaped them and influenced their lives — and how they’re passing that legacy on. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(03:37) - The women who’ve mattered to us
(07:31) - Who has shaped your life?
(10:32) - Surrogate daughters
(14:32) - We have more impact than we know
(18:50) - Cronedom
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
In the second of this two part episode, Lisa continues sharing her journey with her mental illness — and how she found her way back to her brighter, healthier self. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(01:52) - Picking up where we left off
(04:50) - Life is a series of trade offs
(10:30) - Nightmares
(16:33) - What has happened to my beautiful brain?
(18:16) - Telling the story
(22:37) - Doing the work hurts
(25:35) - Catharsis through creativity
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
In this episode, the first of two parts, Lisa speaks with candor and humour about her struggles with mental health and her journey to mental wellness. For those who have struggled with depression and anxiety, or those who just wish to understand mental illness more deeply, Lisa offers insight and inspiration. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(04:20) - Women’s Heavy Emotional Load
(08:57) - Starting at the Beginning
(12:58) - Dissolving
(16:49) - Our Weaknesses Can Be Strengths
(23:10) - How Are You Really?
(30:43) - You are a Presence
Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Language is many things: fluid, living, open to interpretation. Trudy and Lisa explore new coinages, the importance of challenging patronizing language, and disagree about mansplaining. Our hosts attempt to untangle language’s contradictions and histories, and debate the value of gendered language. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(05:07) - Ladies and Gentlemen
(09:08) - Explaining Mansplaining
(11:27) - The Fallacy
(19:55) - “Are you mansplaining to me right now?”
(24:50) - Language Matters
(28:31) - Language is Alive
(32:17) - Calling Things What They Are
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
It can feel uncomfortable to talk about, but maybe that’s why it’s so fun. Lisa and Trudy get down and dirty about the realities of sex, bodies and aging. Together, our hosts explore how desire shifts over our lifetimes, confronting ageism and sexism, and women’s agency. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode-- Hags: The Demonisation of Middle-Aged Women by Victoria Smith(01:47) - Can We Talk About This?
(06:21) - Sexual Beings to the End
(12:40) - Evolving Beauty Over Our Lifetimes
(18:25) - Sexuality is a Mind Game
(20:11) - Humour From a Place of Love
(25:21) - Size and Invisibility
(27:51) - We’re Told to Feel Bad About Our Bodies
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Registered psychologist, longtime activist and Edmonton icon Liz Massiah chats with Trudy and Lisa about helping friends & community members talk about trauma, the gay and lesbian community in Edmonton in the 80s, where 2SLGBTQ+ rights are today — and what allies can do to defend the community. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode-- 1. Rule, Jane. (1985) A Hot-Eyed Moderate. Naiad Pr. Tallahassee, USA. (00:32) - Highlighting New Voices
(07:52) - Introducing Liz Massaiah
(11:51) - Invisibility and Women Over 50
(16:48) - Aging in the Lesbian Community
(21:17) - Politics is Like Housework
(24:08) - Allies All Around Us
(28:45) - Through Uncertainty to New Possibilities
(30:18) - Supporting Traumatized People
(33:52) - Coming Out and the Trauma of the Closet
(40:01) - Be Curious, Not Judgemental
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Boundaries make nourishing relationships possible — regardless of what our guilty feelings might tell us when we set those boundaries. Our guest for part two of this conversation, Registered Psychologist Janelle Drisner, helps us grapple with the tension between human limitations and unconditional love. This time, Janelle dives deeper into the complexities and limitations of relationships, how we show up for each other and the necessary, uncomfortable work of articulating our boundaries — in pursuit of more authentic relationships.Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode-- Disentangling from Emotionally Immature People: Avoid Emotional Traps, Stand Up for Your Self, and Transform Your Relationships as an Adult Child of Emotionally Immature Parents by Lindsay C. Gibson(00:53) - - With Every No, There Is A Yes
(04:11) - - Communicating Your Boundaries
(11:40) - - Challenging Cultural Scripts
(14:49) - - Anger Is A Source Of Courage
(17:42) - - Apology Is Only The Beginning Of Repair
(22:15) - - Relationships With Adult Children
(27:43) - - Wrestling With The Roles We’re Given
(31:29) - - Unconditional Love And Being Human
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Boundaries tell us where I end and you begin, says our guest, Registered Psychologist Janelle Drisner. But what is a boundary really? Should we have expectations in relationships? And how do you cultivate your relationship with yourself?Trudy and Lisa sit down with Janelle, for the first of a two part episode to answer — or at least begin to understand — these questions and more. Janelle takes us beyond psychological buzzwords into a truly fascinating conversation that challenges us all to think about relationships in new ways. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(00:32) - - Introducing Janelle Drisner
(02:03) - - What Are Boundaries?
(08:13) - - Respect
(11:39) - - Expectations vs Needs
(14:42) - - Diversifying Our Supports
(20:55) - - Crones Do Not Avert Their Eyes
(23:39) - - Dialoguing with Ourselves
(26:44) - - Cultivating a Rich Inner Life
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
At the end of your life, what will you regret — the things you’ve done or the things you didn’t do? What kept you from doing things you wanted to do? Lisa and Trudy explore regret, fear and the wisdom of aging through a discussion of Bronnie Ware’s memoir The Top 5 Regrets of the Dying. “Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards.” Søren KierkegaardRead our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode-- The Top 5 Regrets of the Dying: A Life Transformed by the Dearly Departing by Bronnie Ware Skater Girl: An Archaeology of the Self by Robin C. Pacific(00:32) - Intro
(03:57) - Regrets of The Dying
(08:08) - Fear-based Decision Making
(15:21) - Courageous Decisions
(17:12) - Deathbed Regret
(20:44) - Grab Life
(22:56) - Understood backward and lived forwards
(30:30) - Creating Possibility
(33:42) - Regret-free Living
--Credits-- Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
Krista Vernoff, executive producer and former showrunner of Grey’s Anatomy, is bored of people who aren’t women over 50. She walks Trudy and Lisa through what it is to live a creative life and how giving yourself permission to make art and make mistakes is everything. Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.(00:33) - Special note
(01:09) - Intro
(03:49) - Creativity and Women Over 50
(08:45) - Giving Yourself Permission
(13:07) - Doing vs Becoming
(16:52) - Art Wants to Be Seen
(23:52) - The Myth of Invisibility
(27:50) - Society’s Devaluation of Art
(33:14) - Being a Patron of the Arts
(35:17) - Valuing Your Natural Talent
(46:09) - Knowing Yourself
--Credits--Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen
If you asked 10 people to define what hope is, you’d probably get 10 different definitions. We think we know what hope is, but do we really? Is hoping for something unrealistic? Are wishing and hoping the same thing? Can you manifest something into being through hope? These are just some of the questions Trudy and Lisa pose to University of Alberta Faculty of Education Associate Dean (Research) and professor Dr. Denise Larsen about her research into hope. Even if you’re not a naturally hopeful person, Dr. Larsen tells us how we can build “hope skills” and how fostering hope in ourselves and others can change people, cities and communities for the better.Note: Dr. Larsen mentions an intervention activity conducted with international students. That activity was developed by University of Alberta Ph.D. candidate Chelsea Hobbs. Dr. Larsen also wished to acknowledge Dr. Doris Zhang.“Hope is a verb with its sleeves rolled up.” - David Orr Read our blog: CroneCast.caShare your questions and comments at cronecast.ca/contact. We want to hear from you about all things crone.--From This Episode-- Finding Hope: Ways to See Life in a Brighter Light by Ronna Fay Jevne and James E. Miller Humankind: A Hopeful History by Rutger BregmanHope is an Overused Word, But the Real Thing Can be Powerful by Amie Filkow for New Trail (00:32) - - Intro
(02:06) - - What Is Hope?
(06:08) - - Hope and Reality Co-exist
(08:09) - - Hope is Risky
(14:35) - - Fostering Hope
(17:27) - - Leaning Into Possibility
(24:00) - - Hope in Hard Times
(27:55) - - Other-oriented Hope
(37:15) - - Hope Across Cultures
--Credits—Hosted by Trudy Callaghan and Lisa Austin Produced by Odvod MediaAudio Engineering by Steve GlenOriginal music by Darrin Hagen